The American Way.

Boris The Animal said:
Hey shit for brains, the economy was doing fine until 2007! And guess who was in charge of Congress then?!?!
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No, the economy was most definitely NOT doing fine until 2007.

In fact, the economy had been struggling since Bush took office in 2001.

Bush's economy was built on debt...specifically, Mortgage Equity Withdrawals homeowners were using to pay for the rising costs of health care and college that Conservatives never addressed.

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LV426 said:
Everyone makes mistakes. I'm willing to forgive those mistakes if I truly believe the sincerity. In your case, I would never believe the sincerity because I find you to be wholly insincere and disingenuous.
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Coming from a straight up liar, I can't tell you how little your opinion means.
 
LV426 said:
Why does everything always have to balance for you? What is the psychology behind that? Why do you feel the need to do that? What is driving you to that? Do you think that everything in the world has an equal and opposite antecedent? Sounds to me like you're too lazy to make distinctions, or you're so consumed with how people perceive you, that you're willing to sacrifice your judgment for the sake of posturing.
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It's funny to watch you deny that you present your beliefs as anything but. You just flat out lie, it's what you do.
 
Boris The Animal said:
Sure it is. High confiscatory taxation, soak the rich, state ownership of the entire private sector, QUASHING POLITICAL OPPOSITION. Yeah, Liberalism at its finest.
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Well, low taxes on the rich and deregulation didn't work like you promised they would for the last 40 years.

So since you've had nothing but policy failures for 40 years, we shouldn't fuckin listen to you anymore.

That's why Conservatism should be excluded from the conversation; there's nothing of merit there. No policy successes to point to.
 
Frank Apisa said:
What you are doing is injecting a discussion about race into a discussion that the OP presented as being about wealth inequality.

There are some who inject abortion into every discussion; some who inject gun rights into every discussion; some who inject racial problems into every discussion.

None of that moves the subject discussion along.

I agree with you that blacks are not treated as equal to whites in various segments of our Republic...but to be honest, I am proud of how far we have come during the time I've been alive.

I was born in 1936. My formative years were during the 1940's and early 1950's. I have a perspective on this that is perhaps different from yours. But in any case, if you start a thread on THAT TOPIC...I will participate and we will be in substantial agreement on much, I am sure.

IT SHOULD NOT BE HERE THOUGH.
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What does the American Way mean to you?

As far as wealth inequality...….Blacks never stood a chance. They don't have the same opportunities as whites.

THIS IS THE TOPIC. It's just seen through different eyes than yours. I'm just as much entitled to share my viewpoint on the American way as you are. Dismissing my viewpoint is part of the problem white America has. You don't want to believe how racist this country still is.

AMERICA WAS BUILT ON RACISM. Every topic has a racial undertone.

AMERICA WOULDN'T BE WHERE IT IS WITHOUT RACE AND RACISM.
 
LV426 said:
LOL! Exactly. They're not socialist...they're democratic socialists. Which is what we are calling for here.

And no, liberals and progressives are two sides of the same coin.

The difference between the two is that liberals think you can hug Nazis, but progressives know you can't.
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YUP!
 
LV426 said:
Well, low taxes on the rich and deregulation didn't work like you promised they would for the last 40 years.

So since you've had nothing but policy failures for 40 years, we shouldn't fuckin listen to you anymore.

That's why Conservatism should be excluded from the conversation; there's nothing of merit there. No policy successes to point to.
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Liberalism is all about soaking the rich into oblivion. Who'll be around to run businesses if there is nobody there to take the risk?
 
Threedee said:
If those countries were socialist (or your made-up word), there wouldn't be any liberal markets. Ikea and Volvo would not exist, or else they would become like Stoli.
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They're democratic socialists. Which is what we are calling for here. We're not calling for Venezuela, we're calling for Canada. But you leap to Venezuela so you don't have to speak to Canada, and you do that because you're a coward.
 
TTQ64 said:

What does the American Way mean to you?

As far as wealth inequality...….Blacks never stood a chance. They don't have the same opportunities as whites.

THIS IS THE TOPIC. It's just seen through different eyes than yours. I'm just as much entitled to share my viewpoint on the American way as you are. Dismissing my viewpoint is part of the problem white America has. You don't want to believe how racist this country still is.

AMERICA WAS BUILT ON RACISM. Every topic has a racial undertone.

AMERICA WOULDN'T BE WHERE IT IS WITHOUT RACE AND RACISM.
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I give up. Let the racism discussion rule.
 
Every time we have a discussion about America and it's flaws....people jump to other countries.

Why can't we focus on America?
 
cawacko said:
Coming from a straight up liar, I can't tell you how little your opinion means.
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I haven't lied about anything.

You, on the other hand lie constantly and you do so by omission.

That's your style; you say something broad hoping no one does due diligence into it. The minute someone does, you cry and whine and cast yourself as a victim, then you disassociate from the very thing you submitted into the debate that you had used to argue your shitty points.

THAT is why I call you disingenuous and insincere.
 
cawacko said:
It's funny to watch you deny that you present your beliefs as anything but. You just flat out lie, it's what you do.
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What you do is you make broad statements that you questionably tie to links, then when called on that you disassociate from the link, appeal to the authority in the link, and play the victim.

You're not a victim. You're a victimizer, and you do that because you lie by omission.

Lying by omission is your chief tactic here. That's the one you employ the most in debates.
 
LV426 said:
I haven't lied about anything.

You, on the other hand lie constantly and you do so by omission.

That's your style; you say something broad hoping no one does due diligence into it. The minute someone does, you cry and whine and cast yourself as a victim, then you disassociate from the very thing you submitted into the debate that you had used to argue your shitty points.

THAT is why I call you disingenuous and insincere.
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You have lied about quite a bit actually. Not only that you're an angry person and try to bully people. Bad qualities all around.
 
cawacko said:
It's funny to watch you deny that you present your beliefs as anything but. You just flat out lie, it's what you do.
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What did I lie about?

Nothing.

You, on the other hand, lie about everything. And you lie by omission, which is the most insidious of all the lies because it means you know that the point you're making is bullshit, but you do so anyway in the hopes that people will accept what you say at face value and/or that they're as fucking lazy as you.
 
Frank Apisa said:
I give up. Let the racism discussion rule.
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Why are you giving up? Can I not share my viewpoint about the American way?

It's not all fucking candy and roses, and for some of us, it's never been.

It's a realization you will eventually have to come to terms with. Until you do, America won't move forward.
 
Boris The Animal said:
Liberalism is all about soaking the rich into oblivion. Who'll be around to run businesses if there is nobody there to take the risk?
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In fact, more than a third of the Forbes 400 inherited the businesses that generated their wealth. These modern wealth dynasties exercise significant economic power in our current gilded age of extreme inequality.

A new report I co-authored with my colleague Chuck Collins at the Institute for Policy Studies, Billionaire Bonanza 2018, looks at the rise of these wealth dynasties. The Forbes 400 combined own $2.89 trillion, we found. That’s more than the combined wealth of the bottom 64 percent of the United States.

The median family in the United States owns just over $80,000 in household wealth. The richest person in the United States (and the world), Jeff Bezos, has accumulated a fortune nearly 2 million times that amount.

https://wakeup-world.com/2018/12/06/how-aristocracies-are-born/
 
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