The ATF Expansion of the Gun Registry Turns Law-Abiding Gun Owners into Felons

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Biden will take your guns anyway he can does not matter if it is unconstitutional. This will be stopped and once again Biden will look like the incompetent old fool he is

https://fee.org/articles/the-atf-ex...try-turns-law-abiding-gun-owners-into-felons/


Despite decades of warnings from crime prevention and law experts, the Biden administration has taken a page out of FDR's book to crack down on legal gun owners.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has followed through on their plan to turn millions of lawful gun owners into felons in the name of "public safety" by reclassifying pistols with stabilizing braces as short-barreled rifles, effectively expanding the unconstitutional national gun registry.

Stabilizing braces are devices that can be attached to pistols to aid the user in balancing their arm. Originally created to help people with disabilities, the accessory is now more popular amongst mainstream shooters who use them to adapt pistols into guns that can be shot from the shoulder, which has been legal to do in the past. Now, there's a big hoop to jump through if you don't want to be hit with fines and/or jail time.

As the Department of Justice first proposed on June 7, 2021 and put into practice on January 13, 2023, those who wish to add stabilizers to their pistols "must comply with the heightened regulations on those dangerous and easily concealable weapons."

Under the new rules, any pistol modified with such a brace is now considered to be a short-barreled rifle. As the DOJ explained themselves, the National Firearms Act (NFA) has, since the 1930s, "imposed requirements on short-barreled rifles because they are more easily concealable than long-barreled rifles but have more destructive power than traditional handguns."

"Beyond background checks and serial numbers, those heightened requirements include taxation and registration requirements that include background checks for all transfers including private transfers," the statement reads. The tax required for anyone making or buying a short-barreled rifle is $200.

The Biden administration has generously granted all of the impacted manufacturers, dealers, and individuals a 120-day period to comply—by registering the firearm, removing the brace, surrendering the firearm to ATF, or destroying it.

Attorney General Merrick Garland "directed" the ATF to "address the issue of stabilizing braces" within 60 days at an April 2021 event with President Joe Biden, prompting the swift action taken by the DOJ in announcing the proposed rule the next month.

Biden had also previously selected former Obama advisor Steven Dettelbach to serve as the head of the ATF, who helped the administration reach their goal of passing yet another gun control law.

While the bureau claims the new rule won't impact stabilizing braces "that are objectively designed and intended as a 'stabilizing brace' for use by individuals with disabilities, and not for shouldering the weapon as a rifle," there is no "objective" standard listed for what disabled people are allowed to carry, or what is "intended" as an aid.

Experts have been warning about the dystopian consequences of criminalizing stabilizing braces, which are used by disabled and able-bodied individuals alike to increase balance and accuracy.

Dr. John Lott, president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, wrote for Real Clear Politics: "Few seem to realize that stabilizing braces for pistols were originally designed to allow wounded and disabled veterans who may have lost the use of part of their hand to hold handguns. They are essentially a strap attached to the gun. Disabled individuals are often viewed as easy targets by criminals, and stabilizers make it easier to defend themselves."

He cites Rick Cicero, a disabled veteran who lost his right arm and leg in an explosion while serving in Afghanistan 13 years ago.

"If they take this away, they're violating their own law because this is designed and employed for people like me," Cicero told Spectrum News 9 after the DOJ proposed the rule in 2021.

Cicero, who teaches fellow injured veterans on how to shoot again, added that "the most important thing to me about this brace, this whole aspect, is another avenue of getting injured veterans out of the house."

According to Dr. Lott, the two instances that Biden cited to garner support for the new ATF policy weren't even valid examples of braces being used to better commit a crime.
 
Every single shooter is a law-abiding respectable gun owner until he pulls the trigger or provides a weapon to someone else who does it, there are thousands of respectable gun owners who will wind up killers.
 
Every single shooter is a law-abiding respectable gun owner until he pulls the trigger or provides a weapon to someone else who does it, there are thousands of respectable gun owners who will wind up killers.

Those who want more reasonable gun laws do nothing to reach that goal with arguments like this, Nord.

This is an LV426-type argument against ALL guns.

We could also cover the entire world with foam rubber, but who want to live in a world like that?

People who are PERFECTLY safe die a long, slow death from boredom.
That's even worse than living in a shooting gallery from my perspective.
 
Every single shooter is a law-abiding respectable gun owner until he pulls the trigger or provides a weapon to someone else who does it, there are thousands of respectable gun owners who will wind up killers.



You are full of crap. Most killers are either carreer criminals or mentally challenged
 
Those who want more reasonable gun laws do nothing to reach that goal with arguments like this, Nord.

This is an LV426-type argument against ALL guns.

We could also cover the entire world with foam rubber, but who want to live in a world like that?

People who are PERFECTLY safe die a long, slow death from boredom.
That's even worse than living in a shooting gallery from my perspective.

The first think to do is enforce the laws on the books instead of trying to hurt law abiding citizens
 
There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books. Every criminal who uses a gun in the commission of a crime is breaking a number of them, yet crime is on the rise.
Liberals just don't get it that one (or more) new laws will not make a difference in the increasing crime. Maybe if they taught their kids some respect and responsibility,
crime might be reduced. And, maybe if a few criminals were shot by responsible gun owners (and the fucking libturd DA's don't charge them), maybe criminals would think
twice about committing crimes.
 
There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books. Every criminal who uses a gun in the commission of a crime is breaking a number of them, yet crime is on the rise.
Liberals just don't get it that one (or more) new laws will not make a difference in the increasing crime. Maybe if they taught their kids some respect and responsibility,
crime might be reduced. And, maybe if a few criminals were shot by responsible gun owners (and the fucking libturd DA's don't charge them), maybe criminals would think
twice about committing crimes.

America is a hopeless gun junkie,not a thing can be done to change that.
Even if guns were completely prohibited, it would work about as well as our Prohibition of Booze,Weed,and Drugs has worked.Capitalism will always supply what people want.
 
Those who want more reasonable gun laws do nothing to reach that goal with arguments like this, Nord.

This is an LV426-type argument against ALL guns.

We could also cover the entire world with foam rubber, but who want to live in a world like that?

People who are PERFECTLY safe die a long, slow death from boredom.
That's even worse than living in a shooting gallery from my perspective.

I disagree. The mother that allowed her 6-year-old to get a gun said that. The parents of the kid that shot people in Michigan said that. We are respectable gun owners. Then the shooting started proving they were wrong. Many of them on this board say the same thing in gun debates. Guns are dangerous in a home and in public.
 
Biden will take your guns anyway he can does not matter if it is unconstitutional. This will be stopped and once again Biden will look like the incompetent old fool he is

https://fee.org/articles/the-atf-ex...try-turns-law-abiding-gun-owners-into-felons/

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There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books. Every criminal who uses a gun in the commission of a crime is breaking a number of them, yet crime is on the rise.
Liberals just don't get it that one (or more) new laws will not make a difference in the increasing crime. Maybe if they taught their kids some respect and responsibility,
crime might be reduced. And, maybe if a few criminals were shot by responsible gun owners (and the fucking libturd DA's don't charge them), maybe criminals would think
twice about committing crimes.

Item: when the 1994 AWB was allowed to sunset via GOP majority vote in 2004, the sale of the formerly banned AR-15 style weapon was significant. Subsequently, this type of weapon was used in the majority of mass shootings....it performed EXACTLY as advertised. The majority of these shootings were done by ADULTS.

When the 1994 AWB was in place, there were STILL a plethora of handguns, rifles and shotguns available to the law abiding general public. Crime did NOT sky rocket, as NRA propaganda predicted, and no subsequent laws of confiscation (general or otherwise).

MAYBE if guns were treated as we do cars (licensing, pre-test qualifications, registration), there would be a diminishing of criminal obtainment of guns. MAYBE nut jobs would not be able to purchase weapons that weren't near assault style used by cops and military. And MAYBE what is in post #3 would diminish the ability of cranks and nut jobs ability to upgrade their weapons to be a better assault weapon.

Maybe, if reactionary clowns who are indifferent to others deaths and suffering would stop trying to justify the status quo that is not exactly working to their beliefs.

Hope springs eternal.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Reality check:

If the rule is upheld, weapons with attachments that enable firing from the shoulder must be registered by May 31, 2023. Registration is free during the 120-day period and costs $200 after that.

https://wisconsinwatch.org/2023/02/w...als-overnight/



You do know those are made for handicappeed people. Biden wants to make them illegals to own

Why do you insist upon trying to present your absurd revisionist fantasies as fact? Repeating and compounding your false statements won't magically make them come true.
 
I disagree. The mother that allowed her 6-year-old to get a gun said that. The parents of the kid that shot people in Michigan said that. We are respectable gun owners. Then the shooting started proving they were wrong. Many of them on this board say the same thing in gun debates. Guns are dangerous in a home and in public.

My father is a retired NYC Homicide detective. We grew up with two guns in the house....NOT kept in a locked box with security code. When we were little, they were kept out of reach. As we got older, it was thoroughly explained what they were, how dangerous they were, and how BOTH our parents would personally kill us if we even THOUGHT of touching them.

Never had a problem.

This doesn't mean that I endorse the revisionist clap trap of the OP author, but just leveling the discussion with a dose of reality....as I'm sure my experience is NOT unique in America in the last 60 years or so.
 
Those who want more reasonable gun laws do nothing to reach that goal with arguments like this, Nord.

This is an LV426-type argument against ALL guns.

We could also cover the entire world with foam rubber, but who want to live in a world like that?

People who are PERFECTLY safe die a long, slow death from boredom.
That's even worse than living in a shooting gallery from my perspective.

People who are PERFECTLY safe die a long, slow death from boredom


Possibly one of the most hyperbolic things you've said to date...
 
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