The Christians Preaching the Case for Kamala: ‘Trump Undermines the Work of Jesus’ Christians are traveling the country on a mission — spreading faith

Did they know they were breaking the law before they illegally entered the country?

That's oversimplifying. The answer is of course yes - but do you fault people for leaving countries like Haiti when their family's lives are in danger every day? We'd all do the same.

They broke the law, but the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Mass deportation would have cruel and even inhuman consequences. I support getting the criminals out, but many illegals are hard-working and contribute to society.
 
Trump told an interviewer that he didn't think he needed to do that, because he hasn't made mistakes.

Trump is amoral. I don't think he believes in God - narcissists are their own God.
Agreed. Trump worships mammon. Note that all the MAGAts on JPP do the same.

Matthew 6:24
No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon
 
That's oversimplifying. The answer is of course yes - but do you fault people for leaving countries like Haiti when their family's lives are in danger every day? We'd all do the same.

They broke the law, but the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Mass deportation would have cruel and even inhuman consequences. I support getting the criminals out, but many illegals are hard-working and contribute to society.
The VAST majority of illegals do not come from Haiti. Most are economic refuges which qualify for asylum . I suggest increasing the fine for hiring an illegal to 10K . Making it illegal to give a non citizens or green card holder a driver's license or bank account. Then stop all federal funding to cities Then offer a plane ticket home and $500 if they return home voluntarily.
 
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The VAST majority of illegals do not come from Haiti. Most are economic refuges which qualify for asylum . I suggest increasing the fine for hiring an illegal to 10K . Making it illegal to give a non citizens or green card holder a driver's license or bank account. Then offering a plane ticket home and $500 if they return home voluntarily.

There are more humane solutions out there, and good ways to improve the situation. Hopefully, Trump doesn't go w/ what the rhetoric has been.
 
The VAST majority of illegals do not come from Haiti. Most are economic refuges which qualify for asylum . I suggest increasing the fine for hiring an illegal to 10K . Making it illegal to give a non citizens or green card holder a driver's license or bank account. Then stop all federal funding to cities Then offer a plane ticket home and $500 if they return home voluntarily.
There are more humane solutions out there, and good ways to improve the situation. Hopefully, Trump doesn't go w/ what the rhetoric has been.
We need immigration reform. Even GW wanted it but the Republican congress preferred the status quo. Except for building his vanity wall, I don't expect the Trump administration will push for another immigration reform bill.
 
Well if they are against murder and pro abortion they are anti science. Are you anti science?

False choice.

Like I said - I'm not going to debate abortion. I've spent days debating abortion over the course of my life - probably weeks. Both sides use the same arguments, and think they're 100% right. No one changes.

It's a waste of time. I believe in the right to choose, and always will - AND I'm a Christian. Go figure.
 
No. Of course not. Who did that? I KNOW Trump was never charged with rape but Bill Clinton has been accused of it at least a couple times that I know of. The thing is though, everyone is redeemable if they humble themselves before God and and ask for forgiveness.
The fact that you pretend not to know trump raped e jean caroll is not Christian either. Garbage behavior. Have fun burning in hell for supporting such hate and sin.
 
The fact that you pretend not to know trump raped e jean caroll is not Christian either. Garbage behavior. Have fun burning in hell for supporting such hate and sin.
Why so bitter? It's not like YOU PERSONALLY lost the election. Kamala Harris and the DNC did by being so out of step with the American electorate. You can either learn from it and get better or choose to double down and lose even more. That's up to YOU. I have a saying that I like to give myself credit for although Im sure someone else somewhere MUST have also came up with something similar,...but it is a saying that I absolutely believe in. " adversity is the spark of ingenuity" TM by STONE! :)
 
We need immigration reform. Even GW wanted it but the Republican congress preferred the status quo. Except for building his vanity wall, I don't expect the Trump administration will push for another immigration reform bill.
False dichotomy. The republican congress did not like the bill for these reasons:


First, the new border emergency authority would have been activated only on a discretionary basis by the DHS secretary after an average of 4,000 illegal aliens per day were “encountered” at the southern border over a seven-day period. This is the equivalent of 120,000 illegal aliens crossing the border in a month or 1.46 million in a year. February 2021 is the only month during the Biden Administration in which southern border “encounters” of illegal aliens were fewer than 120,000.

The border emergency authority would have become mandatory if an average of 5,000 illegal aliens per day were “encountered” at the southern border over a seven-day period or if 8,500 illegal aliens were “encountered” in a single day. Considering that the current DHS secretary has refused to use existing discretionary authority, such as the Migrant Protection Protocols, there is little reason to believe this new authority would be used before the mandatory trigger applies. This is the equivalent of 150,000 illegal aliens per month or 1.8 million illegal aliens crossing the southern border per year before this new authority supposedly intended to “respond to extraordinary migration circumstances” would kick in. That is an unprecedented level of illegal immigration that our country never experienced before the Biden Administration.

Second, the total illegal immigration level implicitly authorized by the Senate before the border emergency authority applied would have been even higher. The 5,000 trigger excluded all non-Mexican unaccompanied alien children (UAC) “encountered” as well as known “gotaways”—illegal aliens who were observed evading Border Patrol while disappearing into American communities. Thus far, during the Biden Administration, there have been at least 1.8 million known gotaways and almost 371,000 non-Mexican UAC encounters. Assuming that those levels remain constant, and there is reason to believe they would both have increased under this bill, that’s a monthly average of 51,429 gotaways and 10,593 UACs allowed into the country on top of the 150,000 illegal aliens who would be processed into the U.S. before the new “expulsion” authority was triggered.

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Why so bitter? It's not like YOU PERSONALLY lost the election. Kamala Harris and the DNC did by being so out of step with the American electorate. You can either learn from it and get better or choose to double down and lose even more. That's up to YOU. I have a saying that I like to give myself credit for although Im sure someone else somewhere MUST have also came up with something similar,...but it is a saying that I absolutely believe in. " adversity is the spark of ingenuity" TM by STONE! :)
Not bitter at all. I am wishing you all the luck in getting everything you voted for and more.
 
False dichotomy. The republican congress did not like the bill for these reasons:


First, the new border emergency authority would have been activated only on a discretionary basis by the DHS secretary after an average of 4,000 illegal aliens per day were “encountered” at the southern border over a seven-day period. This is the equivalent of 120,000 illegal aliens crossing the border in a month or 1.46 million in a year. February 2021 is the only month during the Biden Administration in which southern border “encounters” of illegal aliens were fewer than 120,000.

The border emergency authority would have become mandatory if an average of 5,000 illegal aliens per day were “encountered” at the southern border over a seven-day period or if 8,500 illegal aliens were “encountered” in a single day. Considering that the current DHS secretary has refused to use existing discretionary authority, such as the Migrant Protection Protocols, there is little reason to believe this new authority would be used before the mandatory trigger applies. This is the equivalent of 150,000 illegal aliens per month or 1.8 million illegal aliens crossing the southern border per year before this new authority supposedly intended to “respond to extraordinary migration circumstances” would kick in. That is an unprecedented level of illegal immigration that our country never experienced before the Biden Administration.

Second, the total illegal immigration level implicitly authorized by the Senate before the border emergency authority applied would have been even higher. The 5,000 trigger excluded all non-Mexican unaccompanied alien children (UAC) “encountered” as well as known “gotaways”—illegal aliens who were observed evading Border Patrol while disappearing into American communities. Thus far, during the Biden Administration, there have been at least 1.8 million known gotaways and almost 371,000 non-Mexican UAC encounters. Assuming that those levels remain constant, and there is reason to believe they would both have increased under this bill, that’s a monthly average of 51,429 gotaways and 10,593 UACs allowed into the country on top of the 150,000 illegal aliens who would be processed into the U.S. before the new “expulsion” authority was triggered.

More at link...
They were for it before they were against it.

Do you know how a negotiated settlement is fair? When nobody is completely happy with it.

Still, I doubt there will be another bill. Trump will build his vanity wall, make some token deportations of illegals already in prisons for crimes then move on to something else.
 
No. Of course not. Who did that? I KNOW Trump was never charged with rape but Bill Clinton has been accused of it at least a couple times that I know of. The thing is though, everyone is redeemable if they humble themselves before God and and ask for forgiveness.

That last bit is DEFINITELY part of Christianity.

Can you show me ANY evidence that Trump has EVER been humble about ANYTHING?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe Trump is a real Christian? I'm asking seriously because I can think of no man who is more antithetical to just about EVERYTHING Christ taught than Donald J. Trump.

He has violated his "sacred marriage vows" and cheated on every wife he's ever had. He literally lives in a golden palace in the sky at Trump Tower. The man is a walking-talking Mammon Worshipper if there ever was one. He is the QUINTESSENTIAL rich man thinking he can shove a camel through a needle's eye. He lies a LOT. He envies what others have. His best friends on the international stage are almost all, to a man, dictators.

I'm genuinely curious why you think this man is even marginally interested in God's grace or even salvation?
 
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