The Christians Preaching the Case for Kamala: ‘Trump Undermines the Work of Jesus’ Christians are traveling the country on a mission — spreading faith

Daylight63 said:
That last bit is DEFINITELY part of Christianity.

Can you show me ANY evidence that Trump has EVER been humble about ANYTHING?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe Trump is a real Christian? I'm asking seriously because I can think of no man who is more antithetical to just about EVERYTHING Christ taught than Donald J. Trump.

He has violated his "sacred marriage vows" and cheated on every wife he's ever had. He literally lives in a golden palace in the sky at Trump Tower. The man is a walking-talking Mammon Worshipper if there ever was one. He is the QUINTESSENTIAL rich man thinking he can shove a camel through a needle's eye. He lies a LOT. He envies what others have. His best friends on the international stage are almost all, to a man, dictators.

I'm genuinely curious why you think this man is even marginally interested in God's grace or even salvation?
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I have no idea if he is or isn't,...ONLY himself and God knows. But I HOPE he is,...and if he isn't I HOPE that he can become saved. I hope that for everyone.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
They were for it before they were against it.

Do you know how a negotiated settlement is fair? When nobody is completely happy with it.

Still, I doubt there will be another bill. Trump will build his vanity wall, make some token deportations of illegals already in prisons for crimes then move on to something else.
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They weren't.

This is like saying Trump is "bipartisan" because Kennedy hangs out with him.

I'll copy and paste this into the Trump prediction thread. Let's see what Trump does as opposed to your prediction. We already know that the courts have said "stay in Mexico" is something he can do, it's been ruled on. At the very least we'll see Mexico housing folks that may want to apply for asylum.
 
Stone said:
The thing is though, everyone is redeemable if they humble themselves before God and and ask for forgiveness.
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You're only half right, Fat Boy. It's not just asking for forgiveness, the sinner has to actually repent. "Go and sin no more". Those who think asking for forgiveness on Sunday, eating a cracker and drinking a thimble of grape juice allows them to sin all week are not Christians.

www.thegospelcoalition.org

If All My Sins Are Forgiven, Why Must I Continue to Repent?

Stephen Wellum answers an important question about the need for ongoing repentance by a Christian.
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Dutch Uncle said:
You're only half right, Fat Boy. It's not just asking for forgiveness, the sinner has to actually repent. "Go and sin no more". Those who think asking for forgiveness on Sunday, eating a cracker and drinking a thimble of grape juice allows them to sin all week are not Christians.

www.thegospelcoalition.org

If All My Sins Are Forgiven, Why Must I Continue to Repent?

Stephen Wellum answers an important question about the need for ongoing repentance by a Christian.
www.thegospelcoalition.org www.thegospelcoalition.org
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Also his lies killed millions of Americans. He cannot be saved. All magats will burn.
 
Damocles said:
They weren't.

This is like saying Trump is "bipartisan" because Kennedy hangs out with him.

I'll copy and paste this into the Trump prediction thread. Let's see what Trump does as opposed to your prediction. We already know that the courts have said "stay in Mexico" is something he can do, it's been ruled on. At the very least we'll see Mexico housing folks that may want to apply for asylum.
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There's a lot of misinformation that was being spread about the bipartisan border bill as delineated here: https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/unraveling-misinformation-about-bipartisan-immigration-bill/

Let's see what a Republican President and a Republican Congress can do to fix the illegal immigration problem. He and they didn't do it last time and I doubt they'll do it this time. I wish they would because we sorely need it, but since they haven't in the past 30 years, I doubt they'll change in the next two.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
There's a lot of misinformation that was being spread about the bipartisan border bill as delineated here: https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/unraveling-misinformation-about-bipartisan-immigration-bill/

Let's see what a Republican President and a Republican Congress can do to fix the illegal immigration problem. He and they didn't do it last time and I doubt they'll do it this time.
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I'd settle for setting it back to the level it was at just before pResident Braindead took office and canceled the Executive orders that had gotten it there. Though I do think things will be different. That bill truly sucked. The "unraveling misinformation" repeats much of what I said and ignores what the bill actually says. It is again a leftist propaganda site that rarely gives you the truth. You should really work to find less partisan hack "factchecks". You are terribly misinformed.
 
BartenderElite said:
Accusers often take years to come out & speak - that was true of Cosby, Weinstein & others. Many never do.

I might guess that they became alarmed that a predator would come into power and control so much policy that affects women, so it inspired them to finally speak out.

The notion that the DNC paid them all off or something - which some on the right have floated out there - is preposterous.
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His own (former) wife accused him of rape in her book in 1998. This isn't a new thing.
 
Damocles said:
I'd settle for setting it back to the level it was at just before pResident Braindead took office and canceled the Executive orders that had gotten it there. Though I do think things will be different. That bill truly sucked. The "unraveling misinformation" repeats much of what I said and ignores what the bill actually says. It is again a leftist propaganda site that rarely gives you the truth. You should really work to find less partisan hack "factchecks". You are terribly misinformed.
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No disagreement that Biden fucked up, but, I can't emphasize this enough, our nation needs immigration reform and our Do-Nothing Congresses can't seem to pull their collective heads out of their own asses long enough to pass one.

IMO, it's because their campaign donors like the status quo. When the economic impact of deporting 12M illegals is felt and businesses collapse (or those business owners scream loud enough), maybe something will be done. As the DHS report below notes, the vast majority of illegals are in CA and TX. About 4.6M total of the 12M in the report. The rest are spread across a handful of states with 0.5M or less.

 
BartenderElite said:
I mean, I'd ask - how can any good Christian support mass deportation and the cruelty of that?
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The MAGAT version of Jesus is not the one that you and I learned about in Sunday school and church.

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BartenderElite said:
I just read about that today - I was googling some of the accusations. It sounded absolutely horrific.

I can't imagine how it is for those 27 accusers to see millions of people vote him into the highest office in the land.
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MAGAts don't care if Trump is an oath-breaking traitor, a rapist, a pedophile, a scamming conman or any other criminal. They want "Daddy" to put white men at the top again, no questions asked, and subjugate white women and everybody else.

That's been made clear by both Trump and his supporters.
 
NakedHunterBiden said:

The Christians Preaching the Case for Kamala: ‘Trump Undermines the Work of Jesus’​

Christians are traveling the country on a mission — spreading faith, hope, and love, and attempting to move evangelicals from Trump to Harris

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The Christians Preaching the Case for Kamala: 'Trump Undermines the Work of Jesus'

These Christians are traveling the country on a mission — spreading faith, hope, and love, and attempting to move evangelicals from Trump to Harris.
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Christians are the problem. I will acknowledge that there are a couple of good ones out there, but in general, they are evil, judgmental hypocrites. They elected Trump -- again. Along with the white racists and stereotypical unintelligent Americans.
 
Diesel said:
Christians are the problem. I will acknowledge that there are a couple of good ones out there, but in general, they are evil, judgmental hypocrites. They elected Trump -- again. Along with the white racists and stereotypical unintelligent Americans.
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About half of Christians are Democrats, Dies.
 
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