The Colorado Shooter Just Sealed the Fate of New AR Sales

CASPER said:
Maybe, thing is firearms are already in short supply since early last year, so that may curtail sales, they have been flying off the shelves since March 2020.
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I teach at a public school where we sell chances on firearms as fundraisers for various student groups throughout the year. It has been very difficult to get firearms this school year. We have still given away 12 or so. I actually won one of them. Right now we have a raffle going for our 10th grade class and our Educational Travelers group (they're going to Ireland in May) that includes a simple Ruger 10/22 and 150 rounds of ammo. It is a multi-draw raffle that will be given away at a dinner held at the school. Tickets are $20 apiece and the big prize is a zero turn mower. Included among the prizes is a Stihl chainsaw, leaf blower, weed eater, guided crappie fishing trip, $100 gift certificates to local grocery stores, a processed hog from the local butcher and several other things. But I digress... Desired guns are hard to come by, and ammo is even harder to get.
 
CASPER said:
She also proved that shotguns do not scatter as so many seem to believe, so yes you still have to aim. While a shotgun is very deadly, many will not prefer them because when you actually use manstopping loads the kick is prohibitive to practicing. Plus the best and most reliable Shotguns are Pump shotguns, which requires a person to rack another round properly during a time of high stress.

My mother in law showed me what she and my father in law, before he passed away, had bought for defense and it was a 20g Rem 870, and she said they shot it once and she did good with it. So I asked her to show me, unloaded of-course, so she goes to her closet and after some digging pulls out the shotgun, in the case, she takes it out and after some more searching found some shells, birdshot. Before I said anything else I asked her to show me what she would do if someone entered the house, she pointed the shotgun at the door and pulled the trigger then looked at me and I said now what, she did not know, I said rack the slide, and she said she forgot that part and did a crap job when she tried. Let's just say I now have the shotgun and she has a nice Kimber .38 special which requires little thought, is very reliable and she comes out to our place or to a local range and shoots at least once a month. Oh I forgot to add she is around 4'7" tall and that 20g was too much for her to handle and her handgun is now in her nightstand and not hidden away in a closet. Thing is get a firearm you can actually use and keep it where you can get to it if needed, otherwise you are wasting your money, and learn how to use it, practice, practice, and practice. Heck I have been shooting all my life but if I go a couple of months without shooting I can tell the rust has started creeping in.
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I don't shoot much during the winter. I shoot a couple 5-shot groups to check the zero, then hunt groundhogs starting spring until July. I have a Ruger Blackhawk and a Uberti black powder handgun I shoot at the range too.
 
CASPER said:
We have a couple in common.

The AR platform has improved a Lot since you had an early version of the M16, they are by no means a piece of shit as you claim.

Your last comment is just BS.
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My last comment may have been hyperbole but it wasn't bullshit.
You don't need an AR15 to hunt.
You don't need an AR15 to defend your family's home.

It might be useful to have, however, next time you storm the Capitol.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
all of this is purely based on YOUR opinions, not reality
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I disagree with the above reality comment, but it's true
that I'm only authorized to offer my own opinion,
not somebody else's,
and I've given my credentials as a firearms owner
which you can of course choose to believe or not.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I disagree with the above reality comment, but it's true
that I'm only authorized to offer my own opinion,
not somebody else's,
and I've given my credentials as a firearms owner
which you can of course choose to believe or not.
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i have no reason to disbelieve it, however, i'm more proficient with a rifle than a shotgun........so I counter your claim that ARs are not good home defense weapons
 
NiftyNiblick said:
My last comment may have been hyperbole but it wasn't bullshit.
You don't need an AR15 to hunt.
You don't need an AR15 to defend your family's home.

It might be useful to have, however, next time you storm the Capitol.
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Is too me.
I use them to hunt hogs and was glad more than once to have the extra rounds in a semi-auto platform.
I use them when I have to check the Barns for intruders/thieves, and at 3 am believe me you want the fire power, especially since most of them out here are also armed. Held one at gun point one night until the Sheriff showed up and took them away.
Storm the Capital? You have the wrong person there....
 
NiftyNiblick said:
My last comment may have been hyperbole but it wasn't bullshit.
You don't need an AR15 to hunt.
You don't need an AR15 to defend your family's home.

It might be useful to have, however, next time you storm the Capitol.
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An AK47 is better. the 7.62X39mm is a superior all around hunting round than the .223.
 
CASPER said:
Don't both of you live in the Republic of Texas? No one is going to be coming after your guns here, end of story.
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AFAIK, yes. Who can be sure on the Internet?

The point being I don't want to be in that situation. Prevention is better than finding a cure. End of story.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
i have no reason to disbelieve it, however, i'm more proficient with a rifle than a shotgun........so I counter your claim that ARs are not good home defense weapons
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AR15s ARE certainly useable home defense weapons.

However their abolition for the purpose of reducing gun crimes

would NOT preclude other weapons perfectly adequate for secure home defense.

My perfectly legal Ruger M44 carbine,
although out of production for decades,
would put holes in assailants that are significantly larger than an AR15 can manage.

You can keep coming with a .223 Remington in your gut, especially if you're drugged up.
.44 mag? Not so much.
Anywhere in the torso and it's straight to the crematory.
Anywhere in a limb and the limb is history.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
AFAIK, yes. Who can be sure on the Internet?

The point being I don't want to be in that situation. Prevention is better than finding a cure. End of story.
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Hence why many counties have passed their own rules on enforcing unconstitutional laws. I doubt anyone here will need to worry about it.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I have three handguns:
Browning Medalist .22 rimfire target pistol
Colt Gold Cup .45 ACP single action 1911 type autoloader.
Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 magnum single action revolver.

I have one shotgun:
Beretta 3" 20 gauge O/U.

I have three bolt-action rifles:
Swedish Husqvarna in .22-250
Remington 40XB [single shot / stainless barrel] in .220 Swift.
drop dead gorgeous Weatherby in .224 Weatherby belted magnum

I have two autoloading rifles:
matching Ruger carbines in .22 rimfire and .44 magnum.

That's nine altogether.
I've been inadvertently lying to you saying that I owned eight.
I haven't played with them for so long that I forgot the actual number.

In the Army, I had an M16, the then recent replacement for the heavy M14,
and to be perfectly honest,
I wouldn't have a piece of shit like that in my home.

If you feel that you need one, more often called AR15,
then you're obviously a depraved criminal.
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Oh one final comment, it probably not a good idea to list all the firearms you own on the internet, just saying...
 
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