The difference between Communism and Fascism

AProudLefty said:
Karl Marx was a Jew.
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That chose Satan over God.

Thus in his poem “Feelings,” dedicated to his childhood sweetheart and later wife Jenny von Westphalen, Marx expressed both his megalomania and his enormous thirst for destruction:
Heaven I would comprehend
I would draw the world to me;
Living, hating, I intend
That my star shine brilliantly …
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and
… Worlds I would destroy forever,
Since I can create no world;
Since my call they notice never …
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Here is a classical expression of Satan’s supposed reason for hating, and rebelling against, God.


In another poem, Marx writes of his triumph after he shall have destroyed God’s created world:
Then I will be able to walk triumphantly,
Like a god, through the ruins of their kingdom.
Every word of mine is fire and action.
My breast is equal to that of the Creator.
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And in his poem “Invocation of One in Despair” Marx writes,
I shall build my throne high overhead
Cold, tremendous shall its summit be.
For its bulwark – superstitious dread
For its marshal – blackest agony.[2]
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The Satan theme is most explicitly set forth in Marx’s “The Fiddler,” dedicated to his father:
See this sword?
the prince of darkness
Sold it to me
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And
With Satan I have struck my deal,
He chalks the signs, beats time for me
I play the death march fast and free.
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Particularly instructive is Marx’s lengthy, unfinished poetic drama of this youthful period, Oulanem, A Tragedy. In the course of this drama his hero, Oulanem, delivers a remarkable soliloquy, pouring out sustained invective, a hatred of the world and of mankind, a hatred of creation and a threat and vision of total world destruction.
Thus Oulanem pours out his vials of wrath:
… I shall howl gigantic curses on mankind:
Ha! Eternity! She is an eternal grief …
Ourselves being clockwork, blindly mechanical,
Made to be the foul-calendars of Time and Space,
Having no purpose save to happen, to be ruined,
So that there shall be something to ruin …
If there is a something which devours,
I’ll leap within it, though I bring the world to ruins-
The world which bulks between me and the Abyss
I will smash to pieces with my enduring curses.
I’ll throw my arms around its harsh reality:
Embracing me, the world will dumbly pass away,
And then sink down to utter nothingness,
Perished, with no existence – that would be really living!
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And
… the leaden world holds us fast,
And we are chained, shattered, empty, frightened,
Eternally chained to this marble block of Being …
and we –
We are the apes of a cold God.[3]
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All this reveals a spirit that often seems to animate militant atheism. In contrast to the nonmilitant
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Yeah, that's all I could get there..

And then this:

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Yeah, a link is not needed here. :D
 
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Although Karl Marx's own attitude toward Judaism has been characterized as ambivalent at best and hostile at worst, his books were burned in 1933 because of both his Jewish heritage and his socialist ideology. Marx was already named an ideological enemy in Hitler's early writings. Unsurprisingly, he received special mention in a "fire oath" as promulgator of class conflict. His books Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto, blueprints for a Communist world order and among the most frequently translated German texts, were among those incinerated by the students.
 
Into the Night said:
Then why did he attack it????
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Britain declared war on Germany along with France after Germany invaded Poland.

They still got involved!
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Italy was their nominal ally, and involvement in N. Africa to prop up the Italians was recriprocated on by Italy, reluctantly, sending an Army (their 8th) to Russia.

They were headed to Moscow.
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They were going there, to defeat the Soviet Union, not to take the whole of Russia.

The Germans occupied France. Never part of Germany.
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Germany initially only occupied part of France. The other, roughly half, was allowed to remain as the Vichy government. The occupation of France wasn't planned as part of some eventual annexation, but rather necessary because of Britain and Free French forces continuing the war.

Not true. Germany declared war on the United States in 1941. In 1942, plans were being made to invade the United States in force. Some German combatants DID manage to come ashore in the United States in both New York and in Florida. Hitler never got any further. He was already stretched thin invading everybody else.
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No, there were never any plans to actually invade the US. Germany declared war on the US mainly because of the US's involvement in the U-boat campaign that Admiral Raeder had expanded into the mid-Atlantic, something tepidly opposed by Hitler but never acted against.

They invaded Greece. Hitler was trying to export fascism and his empire to the world.
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Germany invaded Greece and the Balkans only because the British got involved in the Greek-Italian war. The threat to Germany was this would expand and Romania--virtually next door--would end up in the war with Germany. British presence in Greece and on Crete threatened German oil imports from Ploesti in Romania. Thus, Germany invaded and took the Balkans. That stalled their original plan to invade Russia by several months.

They still invaded Greece. The reason is irrelevant.
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It is relevant. It points to motivation.

Why? Greece was never part of Germany. It was never part of Italy either.
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Germany didn't "invade" Italy at all during the war. In fact, until N. Africa fell, the Germans had stationed no ground troops in Italy whatsoever, only Luftwaffe units usually on a temporary basis for the most part.

You forget the Tripartite Pact. It's purpose g to export fascism and his empire to the world.was to export fascism by dictatorship to the world.
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No, it was a defense pact. Germany and Italy were under no obligation to help Japan if Japan started a war. The same goes the other way around. That's one reason the Japanese didn't bother to attack the Soviet Union. They had no obligation to and really didn't want to in any case.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Britain declared war on Germany along with France after Germany invaded Poland.



Italy was their nominal ally, and involvement in N. Africa to prop up the Italians was recriprocated on by Italy, reluctantly, sending an Army (their 8th) to Russia.



They were going there, to defeat the Soviet Union, not to take the whole of Russia.



Germany initially only occupied part of France. The other, roughly half, was allowed to remain as the Vichy government. The occupation of France wasn't planned as part of some eventual annexation, but rather necessary because of Britain and Free French forces continuing the war.



No, there were never any plans to actually invade the US. Germany declared war on the US mainly because of the US's involvement in the U-boat campaign that Admiral Raeder had expanded into the mid-Atlantic, something tepidly opposed by Hitler but never acted against.



Germany invaded Greece and the Balkans only because the British got involved in the Greek-Italian war. The threat to Germany was this would expand and Romania--virtually next door--would end up in the war with Germany. British presence in Greece and on Crete threatened German oil imports from Ploesti in Romania. Thus, Germany invaded and took the Balkans. That stalled their original plan to invade Russia by several months.



It is relevant. It points to motivation.



Germany didn't "invade" Italy at all during the war. In fact, until N. Africa fell, the Germans had stationed no ground troops in Italy whatsoever, only Luftwaffe units usually on a temporary basis for the most part.



No, it was a defense pact. Germany and Italy were under no obligation to help Japan if Japan started a war. The same goes the other way around. That's one reason the Japanese didn't bother to attack the Soviet Union. They had no obligation to and really didn't want to in any case.
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I take it back. You are not a deliberate troll.
 
AProudLefty said:
It's difficult to say. The USA was in a state of chaos. The space race, the civil rights movement, the Red Scare and so many more.
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Castro took down Batista under Eisenhower in 1958. Although Tailgunner Joe hyped up the Red Scare, it'd been around since before WWII...which is why FDR supplying Stalin under Lend-Lease was controversial.

Civil Rights peaked in violence and change in the mid-60s but had been around post-WWII just like women's rights. The social consequences of fighting on the Homefront during WWII are significant!

The Space Race, thanks to JFK, was more about hope than fear.

Long story, short, I disagree that the US was in more chaos in since JFK than any other time. Seems pretty par to me. Triumphs, failures. mistakes, etc.
 
AProudLefty said:
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While communism is a system based around a theory of economic equality and advocates for a classless society, fascism is a nationalistic, top-down system with rigid class roles that is ruled by an all-powerful dictator. Both communism and fascism originated in Europe and gained popularity in the early to mid 20th century.

Let's start with this one:

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I will post more later.
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I hate to have to keep asking you this but are you fucking retarded?
 
NiftyNiblick said:
All the memes mean shit.
I pretty much hate memes anyway,
my being slim in the sense of humor department.

The reality couldn't be more obvious or serious.
People whose core values barely overlap at all will never get along trying to share the same government and laws.

An America absent the red states
would have a more comprehensive public sector / social safety net
and a more regulated private sector protecting consumers and workers,
and would be a more acceptable place to live for people with highly sophisticated and civilized values.

Another America absent the blue states would allow the "civil liberties" that less educated (and educatable), more primitve people consider valuable.

We presently have an America that should never have been
were it not for the ill-advised effort to forge one nation from thirteen suddenly independent
and totally incompatible colonies in the late 18th century.

Our present constitution, written by apparent illiterates,
gives far too much political representation, relative to their numbers, to rural, conservative, and afflicted by religious superstition rubes.

Having the best, most abundant tract of real estate on the planet allowed this ill-conceived nation to hang in there for far longer that it otherwise might have.
That's over now. We're on the precipice of full blown dystopia now.
The all-consuming hatred is both palpable and totally understandable.
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you're too dumb to get memes.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Just the 21st Century Democrats.

In the past they saw them like like hippy-dippy tree huggers but after the Soviet Union imploded the Republicans began transferring their "Red Scare" fears from fucking Russians to Democrats.

Since no one fears pot-smoking bleeding hearts, the Republicans had to demonize them into Socialists...which wasn't too hard given their politics. LOL

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this is hard for kids to get because now dems are obviously the oligarch/corporate party.
 
AssHatZombie said:
this is hard for kids to get because now dems are obviously the oligarch/corporate party.
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...just like the Republicans.

I'm reminded of the end of "Animal Farm": https://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100011h.html

"Gentlemen," concluded Napoleon, "I will give you the same toast as before, but in a different form. Fill your glasses to the brim. Gentlemen, here is my toast: To the prosperity of The Manor Farm!"

There was the same hearty cheering as before, and the mugs were emptied to the dregs. But as the animals outside gazed at the scene, it seemed to them that some strange thing was happening. What was it that had altered in the faces of the pigs? Clover's old dim eyes flitted from one face to another. Some of them had five chins, some had four, some had three. But what was it that seemed to be melting and changing? Then, the applause having come to an end, the company took up their cards and continued the game that had been interrupted, and the animals crept silently away.

But they had not gone twenty yards when they stopped short. An uproar of voices was coming from the farmhouse. They rushed back and looked through the window again. Yes, a violent quarrel was in progress. There were shoutings, bangings on the table, sharp suspicious glances, furious denials. The source of the trouble appeared to be that Napoleon and Mr. Pilkington had each played an ace of spades simultaneously.

Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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