The difference between Communism and Fascism

[Into the Night]

Is that how many Republicans see Democrats?

Have you seen Austria or Australia lately? Have you seen New York City lately?

Beating and arresting people while yelling, "We are here to help you!".

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Is it an actual conflation,
or do said idiots understand the actual meaning of neither word,
but find them both equally convenient as descriptors of something that they don't like?

TBH, most of them can't even spell conflation much less tell you what it means.

 

[AProudLefty]

Have you seen Austria or Australia lately? Have you seen New York City lately?

Beating and arresting people while yelling, "We are here to help you!".

Thank you for the comic relief.

 

[Into the Night]

Then I'd like to talk to IBDaMann. Is he in there today?

Go send a PM to him. You don't need my permission. Don't know if he'll respond for awhile. He doesn't come here much. He's been spending more time over on climate-debate.com.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Go send a PM to him. You don't need my permission. Don't know if he'll respond for awhile. He doesn't come here much. He's been spending more time over on climate-debate.com.

I'm certain that by telling you and only you, he'll hear me.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Since Communism has never been proven to work or existed, how the hell is Fascism trying to cover the fact that it's Communism?

Like I said, the meme failed spectacularly. In a Fascist nation, the nation is ruled with an iron fist.

Oh, stop right there with the bolded, it existed and exists: in Cuba, U.S.S.R., Venezuela, China, Cambodia, North Vietnam, many more places.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

You saying Communism never existed is an outright lie.

Why you wanna lie? 'Sup with that?

 

[AProudLefty]

Oh, stop right there with the bolded, it existed and exists: in Cuba, U.S.S.R., Venezuela, China, Cambodia, North Vietnam, many more places.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

You saying Communism never existed is an outright lie.

Was it Karl Marx's Communism, or was it CINO? (Communist in name only)

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Oh, stop right there with the bolded, it existed and exists: in Cuba, U.S.S.R., Venezuela, China, Cambodia, North Vietnam, many more places.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

You saying Communism never existed is an outright lie.

Why you wanna lie? 'Sup with that?

Was it Karl Marx's Communism, or was it CINO? (Communist in name only)

CINO because Communism is unworkable at the representative level. Great in tribes or villages, goes to shit the bigger the group. While communism has been tried, it's always failed above the non-representative level.

That said, power corrupts and absolute power, as in a single party system, corrupts absolutely.

At it's most base are two choices: empowering a government to do anything it wants or accept a deadlock at the national level except in cases of foreign attack.

I vote deadlock at the national level. If they can't agree on something, then it needs more exploration, including public education. None of this "we have to pass it to see what's in it" shit. Educate the public and let them vote through their elected reps.

 

[AProudLefty]

CINO because Communism is unworkable at the representative level. Great in tribes or villages, goes to shit the bigger the group. While communism has been tried, it's always failed above the non-representative level.

That said, power corrupts and absolute power, as in a single party system, corrupts absolutely.

At it's most base are two choices: empowering a government to do anything it wants or accept a deadlock at the national level except in cases of foreign attack.

I vote deadlock at the national level. If they can't agree on something, then it needs more exploration, including public education. None of this "we have to pass it to see what's in it" shit. Educate the public and let them vote through their elected reps.

It's the same with Anarchism. Great idea but it turns to shit if they try that with a bigger group.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It's the same with Anarchism. Great idea but it turns to shit if they try that with a bigger group.

Exactly. Somalia and France after the Revolution are examples of what happens in government collapse: those with power begin to use it.

What happens in most cases of government collapse? The military takes over. Only when the military itself collapses can foreign powers move in.

The Cuban Revolution is an example of Marxism gone bad but also the foibles of the US. Let's be clear: I'm not blaming the US for Cuba. I'm saying we could have played our cards better even given the times and 20/20 Hindsight.

A former baseball player turned Marxist frees his country from a brutal dictator. He reaches out to a fellow nation which also freed itself from tyranny. The response? "Fuck you and all Marxists!". Castro turned to the #2 Superpower for help.

We, the People need to work smarter, not harder.

 

[AProudLefty]

The Cuban Revolution is an example of Marxism gone bad but also the foibles of the US. Let's be clear: I'm not blaming the US for Cuba. I'm saying we could have played our cards better even given the times and 20/20 Hindsight.

It's difficult to say. The USA was in a state of chaos. The space race, the civil rights movement, the Red Scare and so many more.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Was it Karl Marx's Communism, or was it CINO? (Communist in name only)

It was Che Guevara Communism, would you have liked to have been around for that?

The thing you are glossing over is the denial of God. That's what sets these dictators free to do as they please.

Denial of God is a core tenet of Marxist Communism.

 

[Into the Night]

Just the 21st Century Democrats.

Nah. ALL Democrats that want to turn government into an oligarchy or dictatorship, such as Biden, Kamala, Pelosi, Newsom, AOC, Inslee, Cuomo, etc.

In the past they saw them like like hippy-dippy tree huggers

Those folks are still out there. They're generally harmless, except to each other.

but after the Soviet Union imploded the Republicans began transferring their "Red Scare" fears from fucking Russians to Democrats.

Hallucination.

Since no one fears pot-smoking bleeding hearts,

Some do. They tend to be filthy.

the Republicans had to demonize them into Socialists.

They are socialists. They are impotent socialists, however.

..which wasn't too hard given their politics. LOL

What? You mean like standing up for free enterprise, the Constitution, or other such 'nonsense'?

 

[AProudLefty]

It was Che Guevara Communism, would you have liked to have been around for that?

The thing you are glossing over is the denial of God. That's what sets these dictators free to do as they please.

Denial of God is a core tenet of Marxist Communism.

Karl Marx was a Jew.

 

[Into the Night]

I don't get it. I guess I am slow as hell.

Yup.

 

[Into the Night]

IBDa will do if you can't be bothered, Sybil.

Sybil isn't here.

 

[Into the Night]

Possibly. Fascism is Communism with a paper-thin transparent layer of "extra" over it to try and hide what it is that doesn't.

Kind of. While communism is government ownership of markets, fascism is merely government manipulation of markets.

 

[AProudLefty]

Sybil isn't here.

Correct. You are here.

 

[Into the Night]

That's because it doesn't make sense except to looney toons and drunks...of which I'm an expert!

He's saying fascism is simply a cover for communism which, of course, is idiotic.

The idiots who conflate communism and fascism hate to explain why the Third Reich hated the Soviets.

Already did, dude. RQAA.

 

[Into the Night]

Since Communism has never been proven to work or existed, how the hell is Fascism trying to cover the fact that it's Communism?

Like I said, the meme failed spectacularly. In a Fascist nation, the nation is ruled with an iron fist.

Fascism is not a nation.

Both fascism and communism require the iron fist.