The Four Stages of Republican Misinformation

Walt said:
Why would there be a trial? Night just explained that the girl did not exist. If there was no victim, there should be no trial for rape. It is physically impossible to commit rape without a victim. You should join with Night to get this innocent man released.

I for one believe he is guilty, and believe that the laws of Ohio are real.
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You're welcome....
 
Walt said:
You think I want to thank you for lying, and disrupting any real debate?
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I would think you would..you'll be getting the complete story, with facts, after all...You don't have that now...None of us do, yet...But we will...
 
TOP said:
I would think you would..you'll be getting the complete story, with facts, after all...You don't have that now...None of us do, yet...But we will...
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In order of least important objection to most important objection:
1) You have been caught how many times in a row lying, and now you say you will come up with the "complete story". Why should I believe that you will suddenly start giving accurate information.
2) Where would you get the "complete story." In the end, even the courts will not have the complete story. The courts will just get enough of the story to convict the rapist, and go from there.
3) Why on earth would I want all the details of a child rape? That would be horrible to know. The least details I can know, the better.

My two concerns are how are the laws treating the people involved, and are the laws being faithfully executed.
 
Walt said:
In order of least important objection to most important objection:
1) You have been caught how many times in a row lying, and now you say you will come up with the "complete story". Why should I believe that you will suddenly start giving accurate information.
2) Where would you get the "complete story." In the end, even the courts will not have the complete story. The courts will just get enough of the story to convict the rapist, and go from there.
3) Why on earth would I want all the details of a child rape? That would be horrible to know. The least details I can know, the better.

My two concerns are how are the laws treating the people involved, and are the laws being faithfully executed.
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I'll post the info...it is your choice to believe it...or reject it... This is more involved than just the court case now since it went viral...I'm sure you realize that...
 
Good question...Why would the DR. want the entire world to become aware of this case of child rape? But she put it out there...didn't she?
 
TOP said:
I'll post the info
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I am asking you again, please do not post all the intricate details of a rape of a 10 year old girl. It serves no purpose, it is against the rules of this forum, and it is illegal.

If you find details that change the important understanding of the law, or details that show a miscarriage of justice, then post them, but posting random detailed info serves no purpose... Or at least no good purpose.

Again, you have found nothing that denies the basic facts:
1) a 10 year old girl was raped
2) got pregnant
3) was far enough along on that pregnancy to have a fetal heart beat
4) was not in an immediate medical emergency.
5) Ohio's law did not allow her to get an abortion
6) She was taken to Indiana to get an abortion.

Those basic facts being true, the question is whether the Ohio law is a good law, or not?

There could be another question. We have two Attorney Generals trying to cover up the crime. That sounds like the beginning of a miscarriage of justice. But it seems everything is back on track at the moment. If I am wrong, please notify me.

BUT DO NOT POST ALL THE DETAILS OF THE RAPE OF A 10 YEAR OLD GIRL!!!
 
TOP said:
Good question...Why would the DR. want the entire world to become aware of this case of child rape? But she put it out there...didn't she?
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Because the Ohio Law was causing what she believed to be a miscarriage of justice. Many anti-abortionists argued that the girl should be forced to give birth. We should have a real debate about what the law should be.
 
Walt said:
Because the Ohio Law was causing what she believed to be a miscarriage of justice. Many anti-abortionists argued that the girl should be forced to give birth. We should have a real debate about what the law should be.
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That didn't work out well, did it? I'll post the updates when they're available...it's necessary...just put me on ignore if you don't wish to see them...I will post links with everything...
 
TOP said:
That didn't work out well, did it?
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It worked out well. It gave us a complete picture of how the Ohio law is working. It is no one else's fault that the alt right refuses to debate the law, but instead choses to disrupt a real debate with constant lies.

TOP said:
I'll post the updates when they're available...it's necessary...
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We have all the facts we need to debate the Ohio law, and it is highly doubtful that any of the facts are wrong. We do not need details of the rape of a 10 year old girl.

TOP said:
I will post links with everything...
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If it is in reputable news sources, with links, why do we need you? You claim to have some deeper insight into the details, because you claim to be local... And then turn around and say anyone with an internet connection will have all the info you have? It does not work.
 
Walt said:
It worked out well. It gave us a complete picture of how the Ohio law is working. It is no one else's fault that the alt right refuses to debate the law, but instead choses to disrupt a real debate with constant lies.



We have all the facts we need to debate the Ohio law, and it is highly doubtful that any of the facts are wrong. We do not need details of the rape of a 10 year old girl.



If it is in reputable news sources, with links, why do we need you? You claim to have some deeper insight into the details, because you claim to be local... And then turn around and say anyone with an internet connection will have all the info you have? It does not work.
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Feel free to ignore what I post...There would be no ongoing investigations if the facts were all there... This might have "gone well" for you...but not for anyone else... Including the Dr, the little girl, and her "family", in particular...
 
Walt said:
There is a desperation by the alt right to disrupt any real debate. Maybe the Ohio law is worth the harm it does to some people. I do not agree with that opinion, but would be willing to debate that. Instead, we have the alt right desperately trying to claim the Ohio law does not exist, or that the victims do not exist.
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The Democrats DO say the victim exists. Why are you denying your own argument???????!?
 
Into the Night said:
The Democrats DO say the victim exists.
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Yes, I say the victim exists, and you say the victim does not exist thus Fuentes is completely innocent. He could not rape a victim that does not exist. Rape requires a victim.

My question is why you are not rushing out to reverse this horrible miscarriage of justice?
 
Walt said:
It worked out well. It gave us a complete picture of how the Ohio law is working. It is no one else's fault that the alt right refuses to debate the law, but instead choses to disrupt a real debate with constant lies.



We have all the facts we need to debate the Ohio law, and it is highly doubtful that any of the facts are wrong. We do not need details of the rape of a 10 year old girl.



If it is in reputable news sources, with links, why do we need you? You claim to have some deeper insight into the details, because you claim to be local... And then turn around and say anyone with an internet connection will have all the info you have? It does not work.
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The news sources are not reputable.
 
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