Litmus
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I don't think school is the place to teach it. Freaky sex should stay in the home. Sorry. We feel differently.
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I don't think school is the place to teach it. Freaky sex should stay in the home. Sorry. We feel differently.
Socrtease
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So HOW exactly do you convert someone to homosexuality? If it is possible than it is possible with ALL of us. What would it take you to felate a man? Let a man have anal sex with you? Short of stopping some one from causeing me a great deal of pain, I am not "converting" to homosexuality. You still live in this world of "it's a choice". So tell me about the day you CHOSE to be heterosexual. Did you weigh the pros and cons of sex with men vs women? Did you think, "well if I had sex with guys, after we were done we could sit around and have a couple of brews and watch the last half of the game"? Or did you think, "If I have sex with women, I could have kids, and I would be able to attend the office picnics without fear of being fired or beat up"? What exactly was the process cause I didn't go through it. I new I liked girls when I was 4. I was on a plane from Albuquerque to Los Angles with my grandparents and there was this pretty little girl about 4 or 5 who kept looking back at me and smiling and I felt something. So much so I can remember her face 38 years later as if I saw her yesterday. I never had to weigh the pros and cons, I never CHOSE to like girls. It just was.
Too many ignored it for too long, irresponsible and stupid behavior became the norm because of ignorance. Imagine if we were still ignoring the consequences other than the obvious of pregnancy like they did in the 60s with the same current of sexuality running through the young we have today.
You can, in fact, refuse to have your child learn of this in school. Even in the most "liberal" of areas you can simply deny them permission to teach it and either leave your child in ignorance of all consequence, or teach the consequences yourself. I am sure my children will benefit from knowing of this long before they get to this point in school. The dangers of it, the probability of being mocked for it, emotional danger as well as physical danger from disease.
When my children ask, I teach. Admittedly to the level of age understanding, but I teach directly and honestly so that they will know in the future that there is nothing, nothing at all, that they should fear to tell me.
The belief that it must be kept in the dark will only ensure that your kids will learn of it only from those who cannot understand the implications of their actions. Long before they ask you, they will have spoken of this with their friends and will feel sure that you simply "just don't understand". They will never truly trust you in matters where you keep them in the dark. The point that they learn this in school, they have already learned most of it from their friends, and in the most incorrect and, for Christians, profane manner possible. Pretending that this is not so, so you can pretend that the scientific portion of it should never be taught, is silly pretense based on conveniently forgetting your own 11 year old conversations with your friends.
Litmus
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We do. But you make no attempt other than "I don't think so." to come up with any better solution. This is weak.
Litmus
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I think they will not teach to the appropriate age, as you said, and will give kids ideas they never really considered before. "Cool, I'll try that."
No matter which way you tried, or what age you began, homosexual sex would have had no such ability to get me to think, "Well, I'll try that." Guys are pretty disgusting to me. Your posts say 8th grade health classes, by that time they already have had pretty graphic descriptions from their friends, if you haven't by then spoken of it to your kids then you are a moron.
uscitizen
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Umm anal sex is illegal in many places.
So how could a school teach something illegal or how why should an illegal act be done at home?
Litmus
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i'm not sure about that niggling point, my point is that this is what the gay advocates and "cool hip butt sex dads" want to do.
Litmus
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You're dropping out because your argument is bad. The unenforced butt sex laws, are quite tangential to the agenda of the homo-normalization squad.
Who decides what "freaky sex' is in the first place?
I disagree with things on this thread which have been classified that way. So right there you have a problem.
I agree, teach the dangers, who to protect yourself, and leave the moral judgements to each individual, and their parents.
You must use the terminology of your audience or they are lost. In this case he surely believes that such is "freaky". Personally I couldn't care any less what turns the crank of another unless they are in my bed. I do believe in individual freedoms, and the only way to be truly free is if you make educated choices and understand enough of the consequences to be able to do so.
Litmus
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Yeah. Murder should be approached the same way. we should focus on good technique, speed of the kill, and leave the moral dimension to individuals.
The difference is in the victim. When two people get together and do something that turns both of their cranks with full knowledge of the consequences it is different than when one takes from another whether it be a life or an item.
This is the weakest position when speaking of adult consentual sex than any other I have heard to date.
Litmus
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In the case of anal, they're both victims of the homo normalization agenda.
LOL. If they make educated choices they are not victims, you create them by attempting to keep them in the dark. They become victims of the attempt to keep any knowledge away from them.
You argue from a position of weakness because you allow your emotions to let you consider that this is the place where individual freedom ends. Where it is okay for the government to tell you how to treat your body while in other threads get all up in arms about other governments who tell others how they must treat their body.
Litmus
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Maybe they will become victims by trying things that had never occurred to them before they were"educated" on them.
You argue from a position of weakness because you're trying to push "hip butt sex dad" example on others through the public school system. What happened to parental choice? I still believe the schools should stick to reproductive facts, and if parents want to "educate" their kids on glory hole etiquette, that can remain at home.
Rubbish, I push only an education of consequences while you push to keep them in the dark and in danger. As I previously stated, by 8th grade you didn't know this existed? Where were you raised? A closet? Seriously, your idiotic "They'll try it if they know about it!" crap is seriously beyond the stupid line into criminally stupid.
Those who would try this already have the proclivity toward it by that time, pretending they'll suddenly go, "Why, what a great idea!" at that point is simply pretense based off of a short memory and a bit of naive nostalgia of your own innocence at that age.
And as I stated earlier, you always have the choice to keep your own kids in the dark, to pretend they won't hear about this from their friends and in a far more profane, for Christians, way than they will from the Science teacher teaching consequences. You can go right ahead and trust your kids will be totally ignorant that this stuff exists and will never hear of it other than in that class, that their "friends" won't tell them that it is the way to remain a "virgin" and still keep their boyfriend happy.... You can remain in ignorant bliss and pretend that if the consequences are never taught your kids will remain pristine somehow, unable to fathom such an activity exists...
I prefer to exist solidly in reality. My kids will have long heard of this before they reach 8th grade, yours can be emotionally unprepared to handle the peer pressure, mine will not be.
You have severe mental problems.