The Horror Of Slavery.

coolzone said:
Traitor to whom? To White people. That is if you are one. Next, what do you have against Germany. That they have universal health care? Also, Germany is a much smaller country than the U.S. They have far fewer natural resources and arable land. As for population, the U.S. has around 319 million people. Germany has around 81.9 million people. But for some particular year in recent times, the value of U.S. exports for that year was 1 trillion 612 billion dollars. The value of German exports for that year was 1 trillion 492 billion. So when it comes to exports, Germany smokes our ass given their size. And the same probably goes for their economy in general. We are basically a third world country compared to them. You tell me. Does that make them a "model" nation? Also, it's no wonder that the U.S. does so bad. With idiots here like you who say that Germany doesn't represent you or your values.
Next, how many White Americans around the time of the revolutionary war were denied employment by other Whites because they were White. If they had a Wolworths lunch counter back then, how many White people would have been told that they couldn't sit at the counter because they were White. If they had busses back then, how many White people would have been told that they had to sit in the back of the bus. I could go on and on. But I think you get my drift. The revolutionary war had it's reasons. But a lack of civil liberties due to specism (racism) wasn't one of them.
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Those reasons are spelled-out in our founding documents, and it boils down to civil liberties. But, you like Doucheland, and its 0-2 record in wars against the US, plus the battles that German armies lost to us during the Revolution.
 
Threedee said:
Those reasons are spelled-out in our founding documents, and it boils down to civil liberties. But, you like Doucheland, and its 0-2 record in wars against the US, plus the battles that German armies lost to us during the Revolution.
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Be that as it may. The "civil liberties" they were concerned about has nothing to do with the kind of civil liberties that most people speak of today. Which with the help of people like you, the Hondurans are trying to latch onto like a leech. Or dig their noses into like a mosquito. Human or not, just as with a mosquito, only a hard slap will stop them.
 
coolzone said:
Be that as it may. The "civil liberties" they were concerned about has nothing to do with the kind of civil liberties that most people speak of today. Which with the help of people like you, the Hondurans are trying to latch onto like a leech. Or dig their noses into like a mosquito. Human or not, just as with a mosquito, only a hard slap will stop them.
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When you are concerned about your freedom of speech, you are concerned about civil liberties—are you not?
 
Threedee said:
When you are concerned about your freedom of speech, you are concerned about civil liberties—are you not?
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I wasn't around at the time. And history is written and taught by the victors. So I can't say to what extent freedom of speech was denied to the colonists before the revolutionary war. What I can tell you is that it is almost nonexistent these days. They may allow it in the constitution. But when private companies such as forums don't allow it, it is basically meaningless. I'm shocked that this forum is letting me have it. Just fucking SHOCKED!!! Even though I have been restraining myself quite a lot.
Multiple times and under many different usernames, I have been banned at politicalforum, u s message board, debate politics, defending the truth, political hotwire, the politics forums, the political forums, debate policy forum, atheist forum, the thinking atheist forum, stormfromt, vanguard news network and probably more. And all I ever did at any of those forums is what I try to do here. Which is to tell the truth to the best of my ability to do so.
But you have inspired me to start a new thread. Though it will probably be ignored like some of my others have.
 
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coolzone said:
I wasn't around at the time. And history is written and taught by the victors. So I can't say to what extent freedom of speech was denied to the colonists before the revolutionary war. What I can tell you is that it is almost nonexistent these days. They may allow it in the constitution. But when private companies such as forums don't allow it, it is basically meaningless. I'm shocked that this forum is letting me have it. Just fucking SHOCKED!!! Even though I have been restraining mkyself quite a lot.
Multiple times and under many different usernames, I have been banned at politicalforum, u s message board, debate politics, defending the truth, political hotwire, the politics forums, the political forums, debate policy forum, atheist forum, the thinking atheist forum, stormfromt, vanguard news network and probably more. And all I ever did at any of those forums is what I try to do here. Which is to tell the truth to the best of my ability to do so.
But you have inspired me to start a new thread. Though it will probably be ignored like some of my others have.
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You must not feel alone. so have I.
 
coolzone said:
I wasn't around at the time. And history is written and taught by the victors. So I can't say to what extent freedom of speech was denied to the colonists before the revolutionary war. What I can tell you is that it is almost nonexistent these days. They may allow it in the constitution. But when private companies such as forums don't allow it, it is basically meaningless. I'm shocked that this forum is letting me have it. Just fucking SHOCKED!!! Even though I have been restraining myself quite a lot.
Multiple times and under many different usernames, I have been banned at politicalforum, u s message board, debate politics, defending the truth, political hotwire, the politics forums, the political forums, debate policy forum, atheist forum, the thinking atheist forum, stormfromt, vanguard news network and probably more. And all I ever did at any of those forums is what I try to do here. Which is to tell the truth to the best of my ability to do so.
But you have inspired me to start a new thread. Though it will probably be ignored like some of my others have.
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We tend not to be very shocked when our civil liberties are curtailed. For the founders, it was as if the world was ending.
 
Threedee said:
We tend not to be very shocked when our civil liberties are curtailed. For the founders, it was as if the world was ending.
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If they had TV back then, I doubt if the revolutionary war would have happened. I am reminded of the Frank Zappa song, "I'm the slime." As for the founding fathers, who knows what they really thought. Or to what extent any lack of civil liberties played a role. But surely to some degree they didn't like paying taxes to a country across an ocean. There has also been a lot of talk of colonists coming here for religious freedom. It is probably the case that they also sought to escape Royalist tyranny. Such as being considered as nothing more than the property of the king. Who was free do do as he wished to the people. For a place that feelings against such rule could grow, surely the new world was such a place.
Also, I wonder which was the largest country at the time. The American colonies or England. Another thing that was probably also growing in the Americas was a feeling of nationhood that should have its own destiny apart from England.
 
Threedee said:
The CSA didn't bring blacks to America, seeing as how the slave trade had long before been abolished. All it did was start a war with America in which 400k+ Americans died and 250k+ Confederates died.
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The CSA was all and forever about the retention of slavery. And they sired/raped their own offspring and eslaved them as well.
 
coolzone said:
If they had TV back then, I doubt if the revolutionary war would have happened. I am reminded of the Frank Zappa song, "I'm the slime." As for the founding fathers, who knows what they really thought. Or to what extent any lack of civil liberties played a role. But surely to some degree they didn't like paying taxes to a country across an ocean. There has also been a lot of talk of colonists coming here for religious freedom. It is probably the case that they also sought to escape Royalist tyranny. Such as being considered as nothing more than the property of the king. Who was free do do as he wished to the people. For a place that feelings against such rule could grow, surely the new world was such a place.
Also, I wonder which was the largest country at the time. The American colonies or England. Another thing that was probably also growing in the Americas was a feeling of nationhood that should have its own destiny apart from England.
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It was nothing but a pissing match between bickering factions of a ruling aristocracy, much like our political system today. And let us not forget; the original "tea party" was a riot with looting.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
It was nothing but a pissing match between bickering factions of a ruling aristocracy, much like our political system today. And let us not forget; the original "tea party" was a riot with looting.
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What you say about the aristocrats is true. As for the "tea party," I know that they threw tea into the harbor. But I don't know how much rioting was involved. Because if it had been an actual riot, I doubt if those who dumped the tea would have disguised themselves as indains.
 
coolzone said:
What you say about the aristocrats is true. As for the "tea party," I know that they threw tea into the harbor. But I don't know how much rioting was involved. Because if it had been an actual riot, I doubt if those who dumped the tea would have disguised themselves as indains.
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They would if they were cowardly attempting to toss off responsibility onto the "indains".
 
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