The main problem with Legacy Republicans

Woko Haram said:
...and the Democrats believe in something? Say what you will about Trump, but even he doesn't change his beliefs every few months. The problem with progressivism is that it continually moves the goalposts. One minute, they're saying you should be "colorblind" and judge people by the content of their character. The next minute, they tell you that's racist.

Democrats weren't always like this, but ever since the rise of social media, they change their beliefs and stances about as often as most people change their bedsheets.
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Maybe you're just a racist. Every consider that?
 
AssHatZombie said:
they're globalist dipshits with no soul, for the most part.
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Thats kinda where my brother is except he is claiming that they are not exactly globalists either.....the legacy republicans and he does not mean just the people at the top are all about collecting for themselves all that they can collect and they dont care how stuff comes to them just that stuff does come to them.

The no soul part is exactly what he is saying.
 
AssHatZombie said:
it's the main point. dems have gone full retard, and are undoing all civil rights achievements.
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In a lot of places the political leaders are encouraging the destruction of America, Bret Weinstein calls in "The uninvention of America"... and it is insane.

You gotta wonder how much China and her new friends are driving this.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Did it start with the Soviets putting so much effort into promoting Marxism at our Universities in the 60's onwards, that our not standing up to a foreign power corrupting our Universities then was our original sin ?
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our societies have been mostly lies for a long time.
it goes back a while.
 
I don't have a problem with a Conservative Political Ideology. I see it as equally important as a Liberal Political Ideology.

But, for several political cycles now, I don't recognize Republicans anymore. All I see are hateful White Supremacists hellbent to get their way by lying, cheating, and acting like complete assholes and hypocrites!

I just don't like you Republicans individually or personally anymore! You people are some of the most hateful people on earth!
 
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Geeko Sportivo said:
I don't have a problem with a Conservative Political Ideology. I see it as equally important as a Liberal Political Ideology.

But, for several political cycles now, I don't recognize Republicans anymore. All I see are hateful White Supremacists hellbent to get their way by lying, cheating, and acting like complete assholes and hypocrites!

I just don't like you Republicans individually anymore! You people are some of the most hateful people on earth!
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But then again you see the rejection of mass immigration as a demonstration of white supremacy right?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
But then again you see the rejection of mass immigration as a demonstration of white supremacy right?
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Wrong! There is no way Trump can even send more Mexicans back to Mexico than Obama did in the few days he has left in office.

The difference is Obama deported illegal aliens in measurable humanitarian and legal ways and means that were approved of by the vocal majority and the Constitution- AND HE WAS MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AT IT THAN THE WAY DONALD TRUMP HAS GONE ABOUT IT.
 
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StoneByStone said:
Those are fringe idiots, not mainstream Democrats. I don't know any mainstream Democrats that constantly move the goalposts like that.
And changing your mind on something doesn't mean you don't believe in anything. We know Trump doesn't believe in anything because his actions rarely match his words.
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We've had this discussion before regarding what constitutes mainstream Democrats vs. the fringe elements. The reason I don't see much difference between the two is because of various recent events. First, during the presidential primaries, nearly all of the Democratic candidates pledged their support for reparations. Nearly all of them pledged support for healthcare coverage for illegals. Both of those positions were certainly considered fringe a year or two ago.

Second, it's pretty clear that the Democrats have wholeheartedly bought the BLM narrative about cops. They assume there is this massive racism problem with police, when just a few years ago, this stance was also considered fringe. Yet another fringe position that has become mainstream among Democrats is to defund the police. While it is true that some versions of this involve moving funds from police to other social services, plenty of local Democrats have literally pledged to dismantle the police -- Minneapolis being the most prominent example.

Even before all of this, Democrats went from being supportive of border security to being supportive of amnesty for illegals. Even Obama's position on immigration would be considered more conservative than the mainstream among Democrats now.

So, with all of this rapid shifting on social issues towards the left, it's kind of hard not to wonder where the line is drawn between the Democratic mainstream and the fringe.
 
StoneByStone said:
That's nice, but it's beside the point.
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Not really. AHZ's mention of California's change in discrimination policies is actually pretty interesting. It's being sugarcoated as improving freedoms for employers, but the background is exactly as he mentioned. The push for this policy change literally was a result of minority business owners wanting to only hire other minorities.

So, it's going to be very interesting if this is evenly enforced. This will allow minority business owners to hire only minorities, but will it allow white owners to hire only whites? I guess we'll find out.
 
Woko Haram said:
We've had this discussion before regarding what constitutes mainstream Democrats vs. the fringe elements. The reason I don't see much difference between the two is because of various recent events. First, during the presidential primaries, nearly all of the Democratic candidates pledged their support for reparations. Nearly all of them pledged support for healthcare coverage for illegals. Both of those positions were certainly considered fringe a year or two ago.

Second, it's pretty clear that the Democrats have wholeheartedly bought the BLM narrative about cops. They assume there is this massive racism problem with police, when just a few years ago, this stance was also considered fringe. Yet another fringe position that has become mainstream among Democrats is to defund the police. While it is true that some versions of this involve moving funds from police to other social services, plenty of local Democrats have literally pledged to dismantle the police -- Minneapolis being the most prominent example.

Even before all of this, Democrats went from being supportive of border security to being supportive of amnesty for illegals. Even Obama's position on immigration would be considered more conservative than the mainstream among Democrats now.

So, with all of this rapid shifting on social issues towards the left, it's kind of hard not to wonder where the line is drawn between the Democratic mainstream and the fringe.
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Brings to mind all of those times Jordan Peterson said "We generally all agree where the line is when the Right goes too far, where is the line for when the Left goes too far, why do we appear to have no line, where should the line be (paraphrase)?".

Surely actively working to destroy America expecting UTOPIA to spring from the ashes is over the line.
 
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