Yakuda
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I don't find it difficult at all to find design in nature. I didn't say chemistry was random. I'm suggesting if all this wasn't designed then it's random. Some people say it's just "nature" which is just a non answer.
The most important unresolved scientific questions, in my opinion.
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The nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth
The nameless is the mother of myriad things
I don't think the scientists of an atheist disposition ignore fine tuning. They just can't deal with metaphysics, and attempt to come up with a material explanation. Some of them think the mathmatical constants are not actually constant - they take different values in different parts of the universe or multiverse - and we just happen to live in the part where the mathmatical properties are just right to support complex matter and life.
I always had a vague impression this was an ad hoc solution that was really just sweeping fine tuning under the rug.
^^ A wise insight
Yes, we all know you are well versed in the Eastern philosophies. You have made sure that everyone knows what you've read. And I totally understands your schtick now! You are still driven by your hatred and rage (which makes your association with Eastern Mysticism kind of ironic) and this is how you are going to respond to any post from me. You hate me so much you can't even explain your own positions.
I honestly wish you COULD explain your version of the creative force that made the laws of physics you are so fascinated by. But I understand. Hatred blinds you and you don't want anyone to know that you haven't even really throught through your position yet.
Interestingly enough: neither can you! It's why you never explain your own position in your own words!
And proposing a "creator intelligence" of some sort ISN'T? Do you know the actual meaning of the stuff you post??????
Ummm, actually NO ONE can. You just imagine you are seeing design because you see complexity. Complexity can and does arise in natural non-living systems all the time.
QED. You think chemistry is random. Your statement here says so. It isn't.
And saying "God did it" is a "real" answer???
Why do you come on philosophy discussion fora? I'm genuinely curious. It seems your answer is ALWAYS "We can't understand it so your argument must be wrong and I'm super duper smart!"
Why do you even BOTHER? If your answer is either "This famous guy thinks this and I wanna be smart like him so I just quote him!" or "Our souped up monkey brains can't possibly understand this" (usually the latter comes out after you've been shown to not really understand your OWN position.)
Thus, constantly with desire, one observes its essence
These two emerge together but differ in name
The unity is said to be the mystery, the door to all wonders
I know this animates you but now you just sound like Into the Night. Boring schtick. Too bad you can't explain your own position in your own words.
Wow out of context and bereft of meaning because of it.
At least now you are being honest in that you are letting us all know you haven't thought about your own position and you are feeling really pissy this morning.
Have a cup of coffee. Relax.
Your seething hatred is a bad way to start the day.
The Tao is empty
When utilized, it is not filled up.
Just like your supposed "erudition".
Why don't you move off the Tao and onto one of the other eastern philosophy books you've read. Hit up something from the Vedas! That will be SURE to impress everyone and give you even more cover for not being able to express your OWN position in your OWN words.
it seems to be the source of all thing
It blunts the sharpness, unravels the knots
Heaven and Earth are impartialThe best fighter is never angry.