The Positive side of COVID-19

Hawkeye10 said:
The positive side of this pandemic is one hopes that people will finally grow up and wise up...our Elite suck ass, American institutions are either weak or broken, our global systems are terminally broken, the Chinese are coming for us...and more importantly we need to care about the truth again, we need to speak the truth again, and we need to make an attempt to be decent people again.
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If you truly believe this, you'll be working hard to make #COVID45 -- the worst IMPOTUS we've ever been cursed with -- a one-term loser. After that, you'll work even harder to elect representatives who put country over party. Good luck with both of those things.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I'm currently watching the "Influenza 1918" episode of "American Experience" (available for viewing online here: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/influenza/ ) It first aired over two years ago January 2018. It's interesting to see lots of similarities between then and now, especially the stupid mistakes.

As most should know by now, it's misnamed "the Spanish Flu" but the deaths are real. It killed more Americans than all Americans killed in all the wars of the 20th Century.

Kids, being kids, did some strange things. People were dying so fast that small towns were overwhelmed in burying them all. Eventually mass graves were the only recourse. Lots of eyewitness testimony in the episode. One former kid recalled climbing up and down a "pyramid" of pine boxes with his friends. His mother said those boxes were full of bodies and to not walk or play on them. He also recalled losing two of his friends.

Girls playing jumprope created a little ditty to skip rope to:

I had a little bird
his name was Enza
I opened up a window
In flew Enza​

Okay, so what's the bright side? I think Americans have been slack and growing soft like pussie cats with too much food in their bowl every day. As much as I like to ridicule the Millennials, they stand a very good chance of becoming this century's "Greatest Generation". They are going through many of the same experiences as the first Greatest Generation.

Another bright side is that, like Pearl Harbor and 9/11, it's a wake up call to America. I hope, and believe, most Americans will pay attention.
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Did they cover the disaster of reopening too soon? Philadelphia threw a huge war parade during the hiatus and soon their hospitals were jammed again.
 
Nordberg said:
Did they cover the disaster of reopening too soon? Philadelphia threw a huge war parade during the hiatus and soon their hospitals were jammed again.
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Philly was covered but the phrase "opening too soon" didn't exist two years ago. It just pointed out the difference between taking precautions and not taking them. You know, like the WH not taking precautions until half a dozen or so were infected. Possibly even Pence if not also Trump.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
If you truly believe this, you'll be working hard to make #COVID45 -- the worst IMPOTUS we've ever been cursed with -- a one-term loser. After that, you'll work even harder to elect representatives who put country over party. Good luck with both of those things.
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I said way back early 2016 that Trump is a one termer, and that he is smart enough to know it so he is not interested in a second term.

No matter what happens he will have proven me wrong again, which he has done at several points.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I said way back early 2016 that Trump is a one termer, and that he is smart enough to know it so he is not interested in a second term.

No matter what happens he will have proven me wrong again, which he has done at several points.
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Trump is running hard to be reelected. So hard, he only has his eyes on the economy and his resulting election numbers, not the overall best interests of the nation.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Trump is running hard to be reelected. So hard, he only has his eyes on the economy and his resulting election numbers, not the overall best interests of the nation.
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That is not correct, he is as always working for the best interests of the nation, as he understands that concept.
 
There is no bright side to it unless it kills you, so you don't have to go through the next Dark Age like the 'survivors'.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
That is not correct, he is as always working for the best interests of the nation, as he understands that concept.
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I strongly disagree. The man worships fucking money and his own ego. The only people keeping him from ending up in jail are family members around him.
 
I<3Big Anime Tiddies said:
What the fuck is there to be positive about you stupid fuck?
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Being alive and healthy. Being happy family members are the same. Everybody else can go fuck themselves, but I don't wish any harm on them.
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Hawkeye10 said:
That is not correct, he is as always working for the best interests of the nation, as he understands that concept.
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No, it is you who don't get it. Trump completely fucked up Corona and that resulted in the economy crashing into ruins. How we ever get back, I do not know.
Trump has destroyed the environment by putting corporate execs to head the agencies. They are destroying them from the inside, as planned. The future looks dirty and polluted.
People do not understand that regulations, which the wealthy hate, are for the benefit of the people against corporate and elitist power and money. Citizens are powerless against the rich. Our only hope is an enlightened government. This isn't it.
Trump has a 5th-grade vocabulary that shows his childish and immature thinking. He cries about the press picking on him. Who does that? The press is supposed to stand outside and criticize the inside. Trump cannot understand that fundamental truth of the free press. He is quite stupid. I cringe when he talks because something immature and dumb will come out.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
As bad as you imagine that the situation is it is almost surely worse. I have been one of the most sure that America was going the wrong way person in every room I have been in for most of my life, but these last few years have shown me that I was way too optimistic.
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If you take a long view on history, then you'll know these things run in cycles. We, the People have been on a downward trend since the mid-1990s. I think Trump is rock bottom of this cycle. The question I have is will it hang down here for awhile or start back up in another election or three?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I'm currently watching the "Influenza 1918" episode of "American Experience" (available for viewing online here: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/influenza/ ) It first aired over two years ago January 2018. It's interesting to see lots of similarities between then and now, especially the stupid mistakes.

As most should know by now, it's misnamed "the Spanish Flu" but the deaths are real. It killed more Americans than all Americans killed in all the wars of the 20th Century.

Kids, being kids, did some strange things. People were dying so fast that small towns were overwhelmed in burying them all. Eventually mass graves were the only recourse. Lots of eyewitness testimony in the episode. One former kid recalled climbing up and down a "pyramid" of pine boxes with his friends. His mother said those boxes were full of bodies and to not walk or play on them. He also recalled losing two of his friends.

Girls playing jumprope created a little ditty to skip rope to:

I had a little bird
his name was Enza
I opened up a window
In flew Enza​

Okay, so what's the bright side? I think Americans have been slack and growing soft like pussie cats with too much food in their bowl every day. As much as I like to ridicule the Millennials, they stand a very good chance of becoming this century's "Greatest Generation". They are going through many of the same experiences as the first Greatest Generation.

Another bright side is that, like Pearl Harbor and 9/11, it's a wake up call to America. I hope, and believe, most Americans will pay attention.
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Does that explain why more people died in 2018 over the same 4 month time period than has died in 2020? Some Pandemic. The bug is real......its the fear mongering that is the real pandemic. This bug kills the same people as does any other flu bug...…..the sick and the elderly....the vast majority who have contracted this bug have made a total recovery in as little as 3 days (the healthy). The only ones that should be sequestered would be the elderly and the infirmed...everyone else should go about their business in a normal fashion building up a herd immunity. While everyone is being shut in......there are no normal medical treatments applied to the masses. People refuse to go the ER....even when they have life threatening conditions.....people are refusing to see their physicians....children are becoming ill from non-treatment of other diseases. Stupid is as Stupid does...…..:bigthink:

The left wing cure (get rid of Trump by keeping everything shutdown)...is killing more people than the virus. Children are going hungry because the food supply chains are being shut down. The real problem? look who the left is calling essential businesses...…..All the BIG MEGA corporations while the small businesses are commanded to keep their doors shut. It just shows you who the left really supports...…...and who they despise. As Mr. Trump told us.....its not "ME" they are really after...….IT YOU....because they claim you are stupid and gullible enough to vote someone in like Mr. Trump.
 
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Nordberg said:
No, it is you who don't get it. Trump completely fucked up Corona and that resulted in the economy crashing into ruins. How we ever get back, I do not know.
Trump has destroyed the environment by putting corporate execs to head the agencies. They are destroying them from the inside, as planned. The future looks dirty and polluted.
People do not understand that regulations, which the wealthy hate, are for the benefit of the people against corporate and elitist power and money. Citizens are powerless against the rich. Our only hope is an enlightened government. This isn't it.
Trump has a 5th-grade vocabulary that shows his childish and immature thinking. He cries about the press picking on him. Who does that? The press is supposed to stand outside and criticize the inside. Trump cannot understand that fundamental truth of the free press. He is quite stupid. I cringe when he talks because something immature and dumb will come out.
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Are you asserting that, had Hillary won the election, the economy would be fine? Do you understand why the economy crashed?
 
Ralph said:
Does that explain why more people died in 2018 over the same 4 month time period than has died in 2020? Some Pandemic. The bug is real......its the fear mongering that is the real pandemic. This bug kills the same people as does any other flu bug...…..the sick and the elderly....the vast majority who have contracted this bug have made a total recovery in as little as 3 days (the healthy). The only ones that should be sequestered would be the elderly and the infirmed...everyone else should go about their business in a normal fashion building up a herd immunity.
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Do you have any references backing those numbers?

If the disease is real, then why are you claiming the numbers are the same? Yes, the disease only has a 3% mortality rate. Most people are barely affected. The 3%, not so much.
 
Nordberg said:
No, it is you who don't get it. Trump completely fucked up Corona and that resulted in the economy crashing into ruins. How we ever get back, I do not know.
Trump has destroyed the environment by putting corporate execs to head the agencies. They are destroying them from the inside, as planned. The future looks dirty and polluted.
People do not understand that regulations, which the wealthy hate, are for the benefit of the people against corporate and elitist power and money. Citizens are powerless against the rich. Our only hope is an enlightened government. This isn't it.
Trump has a 5th-grade vocabulary that shows his childish and immature thinking. He cries about the press picking on him. Who does that? The press is supposed to stand outside and criticize the inside. Trump cannot understand that fundamental truth of the free press. He is quite stupid. I cringe when he talks because something immature and dumb will come out.
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I do get it, I know Trump very well, it part because my dad (a salesman) met and evaluated him just as Trump Tower was opening, in part because long ago I knew quite a lot of guys like Trump, and in part because Trump and I are a lot alike. How people can keep claiming that Trump is stupid after he went to an IVY school back when that meant something and after all that he has accomplished strikes me as evidence of minds going bad, rotting out.
 
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