The problem of evil

Scut Farkus said:
this is basic, people.

what;s wrong with all of you.

so sophisticated you've gone stupid...
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Scut Farkus said:
to make my texts appear more powerful.

psychological acumen doesn't preclude salesmanship.

you can use that.
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Duh. Exactly.

The fact you feel your posts can't stand on their own merit and must be sold is exactly what I'm talking about.

Pass.
 
Scut Farkus said:
distinctions without a difference is what you do.
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We are socially conditioned to learn a lot of rules.

Only a few of them impinge on our moral conscience and make us feel guilty.

We might feel embarrassed at being caught picking our nose at the dinner table. Or belching in the break room at work. But we wouldn't feel a deep sense of guilt.

But mentally healthy adults all would feel a deep sense of guilt at stealing the lunch money from a little blind crippled girl. That's your inner conscience telling you there is an objective morality, and your super ego was not able to exercise control over your 'Id'.
 
Hume said:
It is hardly an exaggeration to state that the problem of evil stands as one of the most extensively debated subjects in philosophy and theology.

The problem of evil, in the sense in which I shall be using the phrase, is a problem only for someone who believes that there is a God who is both omnipotent and wholly good.

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As usual completely incoherent. I haven't clicked on whatever clickbait you've provided. Is it too much to ask that you try to spit out what the hell you're talking about from your very own brain? In many cases, I can't get libtards to admit evil exists. That's an actual debate I've had to have with morons. What debate are you talking about. What is your assertion or point about evil? Are you confused about God's ability or inability to stop it, or what?
 
Cypress said:
We are socially conditioned to learn a lot of rules.

Only a few of them impinge on our moral conscience and make us feel guilty.

We might feel embarrassed at being caught picking our nose at the dinner table. Or belching in the break room at work. But we wouldn't feel a deep sense of guilt.

But mentally healthy adults all would feel a deep sense of guilt at stealing the lunch money from a little blind crippled girl. That's your inner conscience telling you there is an objective morality, and your super ego was not able to exercise control over your 'Id'.
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yes there's a continuum.

some things are worse than others.


that doesn't mean morality isn't rational, dumb stick.
 
Cypress said:
We are socially conditioned to learn a lot of rules.

Only a few of them impinge on our moral conscience and make us feel guilty.

We might feel embarrassed at being caught picking our nose at the dinner table. Or belching in the break room at work. But we wouldn't feel a deep sense of guilt.

But mentally healthy adults all would feel a deep sense of guilt at stealing the lunch money from a little blind crippled girl. That's your inner conscience telling you there is an objective morality, and your super ego was not able to exercise control over your 'Id'.
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Agreed. If we don't, we face repercussions up to and including prison or execution.

Good socialization means that people want to be accepted by their peers but that guilt may be relative. Frat boys may engage in socially unacceptable behavior with their frat bros that they would never engage in with their girlfriend's parents.

On a side note, police interrogations may play the guilt card, but mostly rely upon factual analysis. The Reid method of interrogation is commonly used:

A Description of The Reid Technique | John E. Reid and Associates, Inc.

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The Reid Technique is oftentimes just thought of and is frequently referred to as simply an interrogation process - it is much more than that. The Reid Technique is a structured interview and interrogation process that involves three primary stages: Fact Analysis, the Investigative Interview and, when appropriate, the Interrogation....

....Core Principals of The Reid Technique

There are a number of basic principles that we teach that the investigator should follow when they reach the stage of conducting an interrogation:

  • Do not make any promises of leniency
  • Do not threaten the subject with any physical harm or inevitable consequences
  • Do not conduct interrogations for an excessively lengthy period of time
  • Do not deny the subject any of their rights
  • Do not deny the subject the opportunity to satisfy their physical needs
  • Be sure to withhold information about the details of the crime from the subject so that if the subject confesses he can reveal information that only the guilty would know
  • Exercise special cautions when questioning juveniles or individuals with mental or psychological impairments
  • The confession is not the end of the investigation - investigate the confession details in an effort to establish the authenticity of the subject's statement
  • Always act in compliance with the guidelines established by the courts
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. If we don't, we face repercussions up to and including prison or execution.

Good socialization means that people want to be accepted by their peers but that guilt may be relative. Frat boys may engage in socially unacceptable behavior with their frat bros that they would never engage in with their girlfriend's parents.

On a side note, police interrogations may play the guilt card, but mostly rely upon factual analysis. The Reid method of interrogation is commonly used:

A Description of The Reid Technique | John E. Reid and Associates, Inc.

reid.com reid.com
The Reid Technique is oftentimes just thought of and is frequently referred to as simply an interrogation process - it is much more than that. The Reid Technique is a structured interview and interrogation process that involves three primary stages: Fact Analysis, the Investigative Interview and, when appropriate, the Interrogation....

....Core Principals of The Reid Technique

There are a number of basic principles that we teach that the investigator should follow when they reach the stage of conducting an interrogation:

  • Do not make any promises of leniency
  • Do not threaten the subject with any physical harm or inevitable consequences
  • Do not conduct interrogations for an excessively lengthy period of time
  • Do not deny the subject any of their rights
  • Do not deny the subject the opportunity to satisfy their physical needs
  • Be sure to withhold information about the details of the crime from the subject so that if the subject confesses he can reveal information that only the guilty would know
  • Exercise special cautions when questioning juveniles or individuals with mental or psychological impairments
  • The confession is not the end of the investigation - investigate the confession details in an effort to establish the authenticity of the subject's statement
  • Always act in compliance with the guidelines established by the courts
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hazing is only up to a point.

I do believe people have a continuum about how far they go.

those who go further and into true evil, are more evil people.

these considerations are not irrelevant.

they just don't dispute the basic rationality of morality.
 
Scut Farkus said:
good products also use sales.

but like you said, you don't shit about business.
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Maybe for a shoe salesman, but on a forum, they only make the user look like a narcissistic moron. Maybe your fellow dummies would be impressed, but rational, intelligent and educated people won't be impressed with bolded, large font bullshit.

Never said that. I said I'm not a business guy. OTOH, I know a lot about human behavior; especially how to spot those who are unfit or unreliable.
 
Scut Farkus said:
No they don't.

quit fucking whining.

:chuckle:
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You have a childlike mind, Fredo. Have you always been like this or was this something that developed over time?

Whining about what, Fredo? I'm simply pointing out fact. Fact which you admitted to doing.
 
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