The Roof....the Roof...the roof is on fire.....

[Damocles]

Look. There are several things that this story doesn't cover, nor does it care to.

One of the more important ones I'll try to cover here.

Fire fighters have a specific life insurance policy that pays the family if they lose their life in the line of duty. It has specific requirements. Had we showed up to this particular blazing house and we went in, one of us died because a beam fell or some other horrible thing happened, the first thing that the insurance company would check would be if we shaved. The second would be whether we were supposed to be there.

If we are outside our area in an assistance capacity, and it was shown that the other department didn't have enough personnel to fight the fire, we would be okay. If it were found we were outside our district, that nobody's life was at stake, it would be counted an unnecessary risk of life, my family would get nothing for my sacrifice.

Since this was outside the defined limits of their district (specifically the person chose not to be part of the district voluntarily by not paying), if they risked their lives to go in and save the structure and paid the ultimate price they'd be deemed in the wrong and the firefighter who lost their life would leave their family without means of support.

Seriously, this expectation that they should risk everything to save STUFF is backasswards, it is especially so when the owner of the property didn't believe the stuff important enough to protect.

 

[zappasguitar]

Look. There are several things that this story doesn't cover, nor does it care to.

One of the more important ones I'll try to cover here.

Fire fighters have a specific life insurance policy that pays the family if they lose their life in the line of duty. It has specific requirements. Had we showed up to this particular blazing house and we went in, one of us died because a beam fell or some other horrible thing happened, the first thing that the insurance company would check would be if we shaved. The second would be whether we were supposed to be there.

If we are outside our area in an assistance capacity, and it was shown that the other department didn't have enough personnel to fight the fire, we would be okay. If it were found we were outside our district, that nobody's life was at stake, it would be counted an unnecessary risk of life, my family would get nothing for my sacrifice.

Since this was outside the defined limits of their district (specifically the person chose not to be part of the district voluntarily by not paying), if they risked their lives to go in and save the structure and paid the ultimate price they'd be deemed in the wrong and the firefighter who lost their life would leave their family without means of support.

Seriously, this expectation that they should risk everything to save STUFF is backasswards, it is especially so when the owner of the property didn't believe the stuff important enough to protect.

Do you think the first responders to the Twin Towers on 9/11 stopped to think about whether or not their insurance company might pay later, or did they just charge right in to help regardless?

The bottom line is you place the almighty dollar above helping your fellow man.

 

[Damocles]

Do you think the first responders to the Twin Towers on 9/11 stopped to think about whether or not their insurance company might pay later, or did they just charge right in to help regardless?

The bottom line is you place the almighty dollar above helping your fellow man.

I think that they knew that the buildings were well within their district. And I guarantee you that every one of them was well shaved (because of the insurance).

The bottom line is that I do not place stuff above the lives of fire fighters.

 

[cawacko]

Do you think the first responders to the Twin Towers on 9/11 stopped to think about whether or not their insurance company might pay later, or did they just charge right in to help regardless?

The bottom line is you place the almighty dollar above helping your fellow man.

Dude, there were thousands of people in the twin towers. There was no one in this man's home.

This man has insurance he can rebuild his home. You can't bring a life back.

You've got a family how willing would you be to risk your life to save another mans PROPERTY and possibly leave your family with nothing?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Do you think the first responders to the Twin Towers on 9/11 stopped to think about whether or not their insurance company might pay later, or did they just charge right in to help regardless?

The bottom line is you place the almighty dollar above helping your fellow man.

Z, i've seen some huge strawman in my time, but this takes the cake.

 

[zappasguitar]

Dude, there were thousands of people in the twin towers. There was no one in this man's home.

This man has insurance he can rebuild his home. You can't bring a life back.

You've got a family how willing would you be to risk your life to save another mans PROPERTY and possibly leave your family with nothing?

justify it any way you like...justify it all day long.

The bottom line is, ethically, what those fire"fighters" did was W-R-O-N-G.

Human compassion went missing that day and we as a people are a tiny bit less because of it.

 

[Canceled1]

Do you think the first responders to the Twin Towers on 9/11 stopped to think about whether or not their insurance company might pay later, or did they just charge right in to help regardless?

The bottom line is you place the almighty dollar above helping your fellow man.

I'd say open your fat mouth and swallow your head again, but you're already in it to your ankles and your ass is now protruding out your ears.

Fat and happy being stupid.

 

[cawacko]

justify it any way you like...justify it all day long.

The bottom line is, ethically, what those fire"fighters" did was W-R-O-N-G.

Human compassion went missing that day and we as a people are a tiny bit less because of it.

Justify it? You are putting property over another man's life. How is that compassion? How are you not putting money first?

 

[zappasguitar]

Justify it? You are putting property over another man's life. How is that compassion? How are you not putting money first?

Firefighters put their lives on the line every time they fight a fire.

If they had even the tiniest bit of COMPASSION then they would have said "to hell with the rules, that man's home is burning and we are the guys who are entrusted put that sort of thing out".

Nobody said they had to spend hours INSIDE the building putting it out...simply facilitate the extinguishing of the fire from the outside.

For them to arrive at the scene and then simply do nothing is beyond reprehensible.

Are you saying firemen should only risk their lives if the money is right?

Do firefighters all across this nation routinely just stand by and watch every unoccupied building burn to the ground because they don't want to risk their lives "for stuff"?