The Safety and Efficacy of Vaccines

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Been talking about this subject in another thread for a bit, decided it could use its own thread. I came to the conclusion that all vaccines do more harm than good a while ago. More recently, I watched the 2016 Vaxxed documentary, as well as its 2019 vaxxed II sequel, which only further reinforced my beliefs on them. Here are links to descriptions and trailers of these documentaries:

Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe | imdb.com

Vaxxed II: The People's Truth | imdb.com

I've also read some books on vaccines that I thought were quite informative as well:

How Vaccines Wreck Human Immunity: A Forbidden Doctor Publication | amazon.com

Vaccine Illusion | amazon.com


As mentioned in another thread in this forum, like a small group of doctors and other professionals, I no longer believe that biological viruses exist, which would mean that any vaccines to allegedly protect against such viruses would be default be completely ineffective since they're attempting to treat something that doesn't exist.
 
Into the Night said:
Phoenyx said:
Toxins, plural, and it's not limited to Covid vaccines. Here's an article on the subject:

Toxins In Vaccines — Is There Cause For Concern? | myhdiet.com

There's also plenty of evidence that the Covid vaccines have been fairly harmful, even from official sources:
CDC Finally Released Its VAERS Safety Monitoring Analyses for COVID Vaccines via FOIA | dailyclout.io
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Can't list it, eh?
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It seems clear that you never clicked on the first link from my last response. Here's the start of what said linked article says:

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Many vaccines contain mercury, aluminum and other toxins — should parents be asking questions about autism before allowing their children to receive them? And should senior citizens be concerned about the potential to contribute to Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, ALS, and dementia? In a previous Health Tip I shared what Dr. Russell Blaylock (a board certified neurosurgeon) had to say about the mercury contained in many of these vaccines. According to Dr. Blaylock, if a senior citizen receives an annual flu shot for five consecutive years, they increase their potential for Alzheimer’s by 1,000 percent.

“Aluminum is toxic . . . . compelling research has demonstrated that aluminum is an accumulative neurotoxin, even in small concentrations. It has a tendency to concentrate in the hippocampus, an area of the brain vital to crucial functions including learning, memory, and behavior. “Recent articles on aluminum have shown that aluminum in vaccines is producing severe problems in the brains of developing children. . . . Of the 36 vaccines children get, 18 of them contain aluminum. One article showed that children get doses 46 times higher than those considered safe by government agencies.”

Mainstream medicine promotes vaccines to protect children from being crippled or dying from childhood diseases, says Dr. Blaylock. “But that’s very rare.” He says. "And you’re talking about giving perfectly healthy children a vaccine that will cause their brains to develop abnormally, and they will essentially be neurologically ruined for the rest of their lives.” “How can you justify destroying perfectly normal children when the diseases you are fighting are far less common than the complications from vaccine itself?” he asks.
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Plenty more interesting information from the source here:
Toxins In Vaccines — Is There Cause For Concern? | myhdiet.com
 
Phoenyx said:
It seems clear that you never clicked on the first link from my last response. Here's the start of what said linked article says:

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Many vaccines contain mercury, aluminum and other toxins — should parents be asking questions about autism before allowing their children to receive them? And should senior citizens be concerned about the potential to contribute to Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, ALS, and dementia? In a previous Health Tip I shared what Dr. Russell Blaylock (a board certified neurosurgeon) had to say about the mercury contained in many of these vaccines. According to Dr. Blaylock, if a senior citizen receives an annual flu shot for five consecutive years, they increase their potential for Alzheimer’s by 1,000 percent.

“Aluminum is toxic . . . . compelling research has demonstrated that aluminum is an accumulative neurotoxin, even in small concentrations. It has a tendency to concentrate in the hippocampus, an area of the brain vital to crucial functions including learning, memory, and behavior. “Recent articles on aluminum have shown that aluminum in vaccines is producing severe problems in the brains of developing children. . . . Of the 36 vaccines children get, 18 of them contain aluminum. One article showed that children get doses 46 times higher than those considered safe by government agencies.”

Mainstream medicine promotes vaccines to protect children from being crippled or dying from childhood diseases, says Dr. Blaylock. “But that’s very rare.” He says. "And you’re talking about giving perfectly healthy children a vaccine that will cause their brains to develop abnormally, and they will essentially be neurologically ruined for the rest of their lives.” “How can you justify destroying perfectly normal children when the diseases you are fighting are far less common than the complications from vaccine itself?” he asks.
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Plenty more interesting information from the source here:
Toxins In Vaccines — Is There Cause For Concern? | myhdiet.com
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Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). Fear mongering.
 
Phoenyx said:
Been talking about this subject in another thread for a bit, decided it could use its own thread. I came to the conclusion that all vaccines do more harm than good a while ago. More recently, I watched the 2016 Vaxxed documentary, as well as its 2019 vaxxed II sequel, which only further reinforced my beliefs on them. Here are links to descriptions and trailers of these documentaries:

Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe | imdb.com

Vaxxed II: The People's Truth | imdb.com

I've also read some books on vaccines that I thought were quite informative as well:

How Vaccines Wreck Human Immunity: A Forbidden Doctor Publication | amazon.com

Vaccine Illusion | amazon.com


As mentioned in another thread in this forum, like a small group of doctors and other professionals, I no longer believe that biological viruses exist, which would mean that any vaccines to allegedly protect against such viruses would be default be completely ineffective since they're attempting to treat something that doesn't exist.
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You should probably push this at your next meeting of the Flat Earth Society. No one else is buying. When ANY of this BS is ever published in a peer reviewed journal, you let me know.
 
Phoenyx said:
Been talking about this subject in another thread for a bit, decided it could use its own thread. I came to the conclusion that all vaccines do more harm than good a while ago. More recently, I watched the 2016 Vaxxed documentary, as well as its 2019 vaxxed II sequel, which only further reinforced my beliefs on them. Here are links to descriptions and trailers of these documentaries:

Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe | imdb.com

Vaxxed II: The People's Truth | imdb.com

I've also read some books on vaccines that I thought were quite informative as well:

How Vaccines Wreck Human Immunity: A Forbidden Doctor Publication | amazon.com

Vaccine Illusion | amazon.com


As mentioned in another thread in this forum, like a small group of doctors and other professionals, I no longer believe that biological viruses exist, which would mean that any vaccines to allegedly protect against such viruses would be default be completely ineffective since they're attempting to treat something that doesn't exist.
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Clearly almost no one should take another jab unless we get a very lethal variant. Currently the jabs are more dangerous than is SARS-COV2 for 95+% of the population, plus we do have therapeutics that work such as Ivermectin.

We have been extensively lied to and betrayed.
 
Into the Night said:
Phoenyx said:
It seems clear that you never clicked on the first link from my last response. Here's the start of what said linked article says:

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Many vaccines contain mercury, aluminum and other toxins — should parents be asking questions about autism before allowing their children to receive them? And should senior citizens be concerned about the potential to contribute to Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, ALS, and dementia? In a previous Health Tip I shared what Dr. Russell Blaylock (a board certified neurosurgeon) had to say about the mercury contained in many of these vaccines. According to Dr. Blaylock, if a senior citizen receives an annual flu shot for five consecutive years, they increase their potential for Alzheimer’s by 1,000 percent.

“Aluminum is toxic . . . . compelling research has demonstrated that aluminum is an accumulative neurotoxin, even in small concentrations. It has a tendency to concentrate in the hippocampus, an area of the brain vital to crucial functions including learning, memory, and behavior. “Recent articles on aluminum have shown that aluminum in vaccines is producing severe problems in the brains of developing children. . . . Of the 36 vaccines children get, 18 of them contain aluminum. One article showed that children get doses 46 times higher than those considered safe by government agencies.”

Mainstream medicine promotes vaccines to protect children from being crippled or dying from childhood diseases, says Dr. Blaylock. “But that’s very rare.” He says. "And you’re talking about giving perfectly healthy children a vaccine that will cause their brains to develop abnormally, and they will essentially be neurologically ruined for the rest of their lives.” “How can you justify destroying perfectly normal children when the diseases you are fighting are far less common than the complications from vaccine itself?” he asks.
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Plenty more interesting information from the source here:
Toxins In Vaccines — Is There Cause For Concern? | myhdiet.com
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Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). Fear mongering.
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Where is my alleged circular argument? As to fear mongering, what in my post do you believe was exaggerated to cause fear?
 
Concart said:
You should probably push this at your next meeting of the Flat Earth Society.
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Seems accusing someone of a flat earther is a rather popular way to discredit someone's beliefs. For the record, I'm not a flat earther.

Concart said:
No one else is buying.
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Perhaps you truly aren't aware of the fact that there are many people who question vaccines and the covid vaccines in particular. The truth is quite different:

Over a quarter of Americans say they know someone they think died from COVID vaccine, poll | justthenews.com

Some medical professionals are beginning to speak out in the mainstream media as well:

Prominent Cardiologist ‘Truthbombs’ Live BBC Broadcast, Calls for Suspension of mRNA Vaccines | childrenshealthdefense.org
 
Phoenyx said:
Seems accusing someone of a flat earther is a rather popular way to discredit someone's beliefs. For the record, I'm not a flat earther.



Perhaps you truly aren't aware of the fact that there are many people who question vaccines and the covid vaccines in particular. The truth is quite different:

Over a quarter of Americans say they know someone they think died from COVID vaccine, poll | justthenews.com

Some medical professionals are beginning to speak out in the mainstream media as well:

Prominent Cardiologist ‘Truthbombs’ Live BBC Broadcast, Calls for Suspension of mRNA Vaccines | childrenshealthdefense.org
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Which would be stunning ignorance...which is not credible. The WOKE lie constantly....this is almost certainly more of that.
 
"They are either lying or insane or really really stupid.....either way investing time into them is moronic"
Hawkeye the Wise
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
In the mid-20th century poliomyelitis killed or paralysed over half a million people, mostly children, every year.

By the end of the century the disease had been eliminated from all but a handful of countries in the world.

How? Read about Salk’s KILLED VIRUS vaccine and Sabin’s LIVE-ATTENUATED VIRUS vaccine:
https://www.who.int/news-room/spotlight/history-of-vaccination/history-of-polio-vaccination
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Oh, I've already read about the Salk vaccine, the non government approved version. I'll quote a bit from an article on it. Keep in mind that I don't believe in viruses, so this whole "dead virus" bit isn't what I'm getting at, but rather what happened after its use.

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U.S. regulators fast-tracked the Salk vaccine in 1954, deliberating for just two hours before approving it for wide-scale use. Despite Salk’s belief that a “killed-virus” vaccine “could not accidentally cause polio in those inoculated,” the number of reported polio cases rose immediately and dramatically within a year, with particularly steep increases in some states—including a 642% spike in Massachusetts. According to one account, National Institutes of Health doctors and scientists were “well aware that the Salk vaccine was causing polio,” and some health departments even banned it. To make matters worse, in a “massive and highly publicised disaster,” over 200,000 unsuspecting children received a batch of polio vaccine later determined to be defective—manufactured by Cutter Laboratories, the batch contained improperly inactivated (and, therefore, live) polio virus that gave polio to at least 40,000 children.

In the early 1960s, the “cheaper to make, easier to take” live-virus OPV began to supplant the IPV as the polio vaccine of choice and remained in place for nearly 40 years. By then, scientists had been testing the OPV on American children for about a decade; as reported by Koprowski in a 2006 paper, U.S. testing of his oral vaccine took place from 1951-1962. Sabin tested his OPV on millions of Soviet citizens in 1959, immediately followed by U.S. trials. By the summer of 1960, Sabin’s OPV was on the cusp of licensure.

Knowing that children gravitate toward sugar, U.S. health department personnel who administered the oral polio vaccine “helped the medicine go down” by delivering the vaccine serum on sugar cubes. By 1962, “children were lining up at school, tongues out to receive pink-stained lumps of sugar impregnated with Albert Sabin’s live, attenuated oral polio vaccine.” What officials neglected to tell the millions of American children who happily crunched on their sugar cubes was that the OPV, like the IPV, could give them full-blown, iron-lung-type polio. Nor were recipients of either type of polio vaccine informed of their exposure to the cancer-causing viral contaminant SV40, derived from the monkey kidneys used to produce the vaccines. When some vaccine recipients went on to develop polio or cancer (or both), all too often they met with an evasive and uncaring response from public health authorities who refused to admit that their vaccines could cause lifelong damage.
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Full article:

What Polio Vaccine Injury Looks Like, Decades Later | Children's Health Defense
 
Phoenyx said:
Seems accusing someone of a flat earther is a rather popular way to discredit someone's beliefs. For the record, I'm not a flat earther.



Perhaps you truly aren't aware of the fact that there are many people who question vaccines and the covid vaccines in particular. The truth is quite different:

Over a quarter of Americans say they know someone they think died from COVID vaccine, poll | justthenews.com

Some medical professionals are beginning to speak out in the mainstream media as well:

Prominent Cardiologist ‘Truthbombs’ Live BBC Broadcast, Calls for Suspension of mRNA Vaccines | childrenshealthdefense.org
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My wife's cousin is a nurse. She told her brother repeatedly to get the shot. He was a Trumpy and refused. He died of Covi age 51. I know several people who died from Covid.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Phoenyx said:
Concart said:
No one else is buying.
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Perhaps you truly aren't aware of the fact that there are many people who question vaccines and the covid vaccines in particular. The truth is quite different:

Over a quarter of Americans say they know someone they think died from COVID vaccine, poll | justthenews.com

Some medical professionals are beginning to speak out in the mainstream media as well:

Prominent Cardiologist ‘Truthbombs’ Live BBC Broadcast, Calls for Suspension of mRNA Vaccines | childrenshealthdefense.org
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Which would be stunning ignorance...which is not credible.
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I think you might be surprised at just how uninformed some people are sometimes...

Hawkeye10 said:
The WOKE lie constantly....this is almost certainly more of that.
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I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not being aware that a quarter of Americans think people have died due to the covid vaccines is some truly awe inspiring ignorance, but I think many Americans are up to the task.
 
Phoenyx said:
I think you might be surprised at just how uninformed some people are sometimes...



I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not being aware that a quarter of Americans think people have died due to the covid vaccines is some truly awe inspiring ignorance, but I think many Americans are up to the task.
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Willful blindness bordering on insanity Jordan Peterson calls it, but providing facts and evidence does nothing, they cant see it.
 
Think of the skin and bones anorexic who is sure that she is fat.....that is the sort of brain malfunction we are dealing with in the willfully blind. Expecting upon being shown the evidence that they will ever be of any help in saving civilization is a stretch to say the least.
 
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