The Supreme Court would risk more than legitimacy by imposing Christian nationalism

AssHatZombie said:
so, one guy, one time.......

i have more fear of atheists currently. i think thats a more reasonable take.
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Atheists feel sorry for you guys. You waste so much time pretending to be religious while attacking others on a personal and insulting level. That is common for rightys and Christians. Atheists are no threat to you, but Christians are surely a threat to them.
 
Nordberg said:
Atheists feel sorry for you guys. You waste so much time pretending to be religious while attacking others on a personal and insulting level. That is common for rightys and Christians. Atheists are no threat to you, but Christians are surely a threat to them.
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I pretty much keep it to policy.

anti globalization
pro tariff
anti war
anti child grooming

whoever is strongest on those gets my vote.

its practically clinical.
 
Nordberg said:
When I went to public school, we had a religion class. It was essentially the history of various religions and how they started and evolved. The one that appealed to me was Zoroastrianism. That is how religion should be in school. Teach about them and then they can pick one or not when they are old enough to make their decision. The largest group in America is "unaffiliated. That gives me hope.
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That is the only kinds of religion courses allowed in schools. It has to be comparative religion, history, etc. It cannot teach any particular religious doctrine or evangelize. Standards are even stricter for younger children.
 
BidenPresident said:
We used to have required prayer in schools. So, no, not farfetched.
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But the courts have become stricter on establishment of religion and expanded freedom of religion. Until the 1940s the establishment clause (or freedom clause) did not apply to the states.

It was required to have the prayer but not required for students to recite the prayer. That has not been allowed since the 1960s. Constitutional law is not moving back toward that standard.
 
Flash said:
But the courts have become stricter on establishment of religion and expanded freedom of religion. Until the 1940s the establishment clause (or freedom clause) did not apply to the states.

It was required to have the prayer but not required for students to recite the prayer. That has not been allowed since the 1960s. Constitutional law is not moving back toward that standard.
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Conservatives certainly want it.
 
BidenPresident said:
Right wing majority on Supreme Court.
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And, so far they have done nothing to change major decisions. They expanded religious freedom in the case regarding executions. Don't believe the scare mongers from either side.

If we believed all the posters predicting wild things the Supreme Court would have overturned Roe, Harris would be president, we would have no more fossil fuels, and all the other drama people tried to make others believe.
 
Flash said:
And, so far they have done nothing to change major decisions. They expanded religious freedom in the case regarding executions. Don't believe the scare mongers from either side.

If we believed all the posters predicting wild things the Supreme Court would have overturned Roe, Harris would be president, we would have no more fossil fuels, and all the other drama people tried to make others believe.
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The pertinent cases have not hit the court yet. They are predicted to be making huge right-wing changes before they are done. Roe is coming soon. Be afraid, very afraid.
 
BidenPresident said:
If it seems like back to the future, you’re right. School prayer was struck down by the court in 1962. Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. Decades of precedent supporting the proposition that the state cannot compel religious practice or legislate according to one faith could be gone by this summer.

The arrogance of justices who imagine there is such a thing as plain vanilla prayer — as though certain religions don’t have specific, distinct practices for prayer — is quite striking. “A football coach leading prayer? As American as apple pie!” those defending school prayer might say. “Besides, kids don’t have to follow along!” Unless, of course, they are afraid of being ostracized, insulted or possibly losing playing time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ristian-nationalism-risk-more-than-legtimacy/
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YOU FUCKERS are always claiming that SCOTUS is final arbiter.............so STFU about it and accept what the court says as constitutional
 
SmarterthanYou said:
YOU FUCKERS are always claiming that SCOTUS is final arbiter.............so STFU about it and accept what the court says as constitutional
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That misses the point. The reds stacked the court with like minded devout Christians who will overturn precedence. The reds lied when they testified that they would not. The ones nominated by Trump were followed over decades by the Federalist society. They were given passes for being Christian supplicants.
 
Nordberg said:
The pertinent cases have not hit the court yet. They are predicted to be making huge right-wing changes before they are done. Roe is coming soon. Be afraid, very afraid.
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Who predicted this and what did they base their predictions on?

The right told us if the Democrats won the election they would destroy the country. The left made all kinds of unlikely claims about Supreme Court decisions. Just predicting drama unlikely to happen. Nothing to be scared of.

Even if Roe should be overturned (unlikely), every state still has the power to make abortion law in their state. Although I favor the freedom to have an abortion, Roe was a poor decision based on convoluted reasoning. Those states passing anti-abortion laws at 15 weeks would not have much of an effect since 96% of abortions are performed before this time. Abortions have fallen over 50% since 1980.
 
First, you give rural idiots too many electoral votes.
Then, they elect a genuinely stupid president.
That president appoints scotus justices too stupid for night court in Des Moines,
and the idiot senate, which is again overrepresented by rural rubes, confirms them.

We wonder why we're fucked?
Our founders created a nation that was fucked up from the start, and they didn't provide any useful way to fix it.
It's clearly time to start over.

One frightening thing about message board fora is that they reveal just how many stupid mutants slither around in this country.

TDAK? Matt Dillon? Asshat Zombie? That's just the beginning. And these fucking idiots get to vote.
 
BidenPresident said:
If it seems like back to the future, you’re right. School prayer was struck down by the court in 1962. Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. Decades of precedent supporting the proposition that the state cannot compel religious practice or legislate according to one faith could be gone by this summer.

The arrogance of justices who imagine there is such a thing as plain vanilla prayer — as though certain religions don’t have specific, distinct practices for prayer — is quite striking. “A football coach leading prayer? As American as apple pie!” those defending school prayer might say. “Besides, kids don’t have to follow along!” Unless, of course, they are afraid of being ostracized, insulted or possibly losing playing time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ristian-nationalism-risk-more-than-legtimacy/
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Should be interesting in June when all these decisions arrive, they have guns, abortion, and now religion, if the Court goes super right on all of those it could have an effect on the November elections by mobilizing what has been an apathetic Democrat base
 
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