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why are you a liar? why can't you just admit you're wrong and that i am right and have cited evidence to back up claim....even SF, who rarely agrees with me, says i'm right
sucks to be you
The Tea Party Did the Right Thing
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why are you a liar? why can't you just admit you're wrong and that i am right and have cited evidence to back up claim....even SF, who rarely agrees with me, says i'm right
sucks to be you
lol...to most people...are you blind as well as dumb? more people on this thread believe you're wrong than believe you're right....but go ahead and delude yourself that a 25% increase in federal spending and an over 200% increase in deficit is not big deal and not any different than any other budget year under bush....
2008 and 2009 equal spprox 33% of bush's total budget spending....2 out of 8 years equal 33% of his total spending...but somehow dear ol' yurt is wrong...
Yep; you are. And you just admitted it...thanks for that. 'Bout time.
As for "more people on this thread believe I'm wrong" - LOL on that one. I'll have to remember that.
You might want to do some searches on "spending" under Superfreak and Damo, your brave supporters. They were talking about Bush's insane spending throughout his term.
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i guess we have to keep repeating for the board idiot
you essentially did in fact say that....hence, why you can't characterize what you said in any other manner than how i correctly portrayed your words
you're a dishonest hack by sticking to your sorry story that i claimed you said those exact words, go look up paraphrase you dumbass
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you're dumbfuck who claimed "most" don't believe my way, yet in this very thread that isn't true
that report clearly states that he spent WAY more at the end than in the beginning....i've posted it over and over you just want to continue this dishonest game....
both of them support my point....since i am home with the freakin flu, i will go and show how dishonest you are
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poor onceler, you're obviously a glutton for punishment today
Even as a paraphrase, it's a complete lie (because you're desperate). I did not "essentially" say that, at all. It's not "the majority was spent at the end" or "there was a smooth progression throughout." That's ridiculous.
But, you tend to do that when you're cornered. You can never admit you're wrong.
Oh, well. Stick w/ TEA party apologism....
poor onceler, you're obviously a glutton for punishment today
LOL - relying on Damo & Freak as crutches now...really?
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ok...if it wasn't a smooth progression, then how would YOU characterize it? you've been given the chance to explain your statements, yet you can't do so...all you can do is whine about yurt
what kind of progression was bush's spending?
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lmao....
i went back and showed you how wrong your comment is and you still can't be honest and admit you're wrong....
they are not a crutch, i mentioned them in direct response to your logical fallacy that "most" people believe as you do....
you're a pathetic hack onceler....
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I am not in any way suggesting that his spending was good prior to the last couple years. It was not, he was fiscally irresponsible right out of the gate. But unless you are attributing 2009 to Obama, then the bulk of the spending increase DID occur in the last two years. That is the only point I was making with regards to the chart Yurt posted and according to that chart, he is correct in stating that the bulk occurred in the last two years. Had 2009 not been so friggin huge, the statement would have been false. The increase in spending in 2009 matched the TOTAL spending increases from 2002-2008.
As for the tea party, I think the tea party got pissed when it escalated to a point where it was blatantly irresponsible (in their eyes). I agree that there is some partisanship at stake with the Tea Party protests, but I believe it was TARP's size and the fact we were allowing the bailouts to occur that started the tea party up in earnest. The stimulus bill and health care bill simply compounded the animosity.
Choppy - but there was rarely a time throughout his admin that any objective observer wouldn't have characterized him as a huge spender. It was ridiculous of you to try to hit up Nigel with the "pssssst" comment, and the follow up about the "bulk" of spending being at the very end (which you came around to admit was wrong).
Bush was a big spender throughout, starting with the pill bill, w/ energy & transportation sandwiched in between, the Iraq War, et al. You tried to dishonestly protect the TEA folks by implying that his spending from 2001-2008 wasn't really a big deal. In point of fact, we were seeing huge increases every year, and a VP proclaiming that deficit spending didn't matter.
You built a house of cards again, and it collapsed on you. Now, you're trying to have SF & Damo fight your battle for you, which is hilarious, since both were outspoken about Bush's crazy spending throughout his tenure.
Regardless, I never said, implied or "essentially said" that it was a smooth progression, Just admit you were wrong.
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wtf...i never admitted i was wrong...seriously, why do you lie so much?
if it is choppy....then do agree that 1 trillion dollar jump from the previous year a significant increase?
^ this statement clearly indicates you don't believe the spending greatly increased at the end, in fact, you're saying he spent like a madman EVERY year....while admitting that spending was the highest in the latter years, one can only be left with the impression that bush's ever increasing spending, was a smooth progression becuase you're saying the above to directly counter my claim that it significantly increased at the end...
the opposite of that is a smooth progression....the chart clearly shows a jump in spending at the end and large chunk of his total spending...in the end years....just as i claimed
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SF - I expect the idiocy from Yurt and Damo, but you pretend at times to understand basic things like what "discretionary spending" is. Let's get real.
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and as chart 3 showed, that also spiked at the end, thus further substantiating my claim...so we have discretionary spending spiking, the deficit spiking (as i first linked to which you and your idiot parnter onceler jumped all over on, which still puzzles me) at the end of bush's term....just like i claimed yet you and your partner onceler claimed i was wrong, unfortunate for you, the reality supports my claim, not yours
its hilarious how you try and use anything from that report to prove i am wrong, i am honestly boggled at your stupidity in this thread, though i suspect it stems more from you inability to be honest and admit you're wrong than general stupidity....at least i hope that is the case
edit: see chart 7 ya moron
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A mere 18% of the increase in discretionary spending under Bush occurred in FY09. If you want to pretend that 18% is "the bulk" of something, feel free. But you should realize that you are using a different definition of the word "bulk" than the rest of us.
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you do realize tarp is not discretionary...it falls under mandatory
so its quite humorous to see you shrug off mandatory spending
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wow...with that kind of explanation i'm like totally like convinced....did you pass 4th grade?
still can't admit you lied when you claimed i admitted i was wrong....poor dishonest onceler