The US is not a Democracy, it's a Constitutional Republic

gfm7175 said:
... because you have no clue what a fact is.

Ummmmm, actually, facts DO require my approval (BY DEFINITION) or else they are not facts.

EXAMPLE #1: Let's say that you and I are discussing the weight of a gallon of water (at "room temperature"). You say that it weighs 5 pounds. I say that it weighs a bit over 8 pounds. HERE, there is no existence of a fact (since we both disagree about the weight of a gallon of water).

EXAMPLE #2: Let's say that you and I are discussing the weight of a gallon of water (at "room temperature"). You say that it weighs a bit over 8 pounds. I agree with your assertion. HERE, a fact has now been formed (since we both agree about the weight of a gallon of water).

EXAMPLE #3: Let's say that you and I are discussing the weight of a gallon of water (at "room temperature"). You say that it weighs 5 pounds. I agree with your assertion. HERE, a fact has now been formed (since we both agree about the weight of a gallon of water).

In example #1, there is no fact in existence. You are making one claim and I am making an opposing claim. We now need to go through the extended process of forming arguments in order to support our opposing claims.

In example #2, there IS a fact in existence. You made a claim and I agreed with it. There is now no need for us to go through the extended process of forming arguments in order to support the claim being made (since we both agree with it).

In example #3, there IS a fact in existence. You made a claim and I agreed with it. There is now no need for us to go through the extended process of forming arguments in order to support the claim being made (since we both agree with it).

NOTICE: In example #2, the fact that was formed also happened to be true, meanwhile the fact that was formed in example #3 happened to be FALSE. 'Fact' and 'True' are NOT interchangeable terms.

A fact is simply a form of shorthand predicate. Facts are useful for shortening the length of discussions. In and of itself, there is nothing "holy" about a fact. Claiming the mere existence of a fact (whether one actually exists or not) is NOT a "trump card".

... until they're not.

Since we can't even establish a fact about what a fact is, and you have no desire to learn about that which you do not know, I have the feeling that very few facts will be established between us.
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The weight of water can be calculated from the atomic weight of water, and for the moles of water in the container.
This works out to be 8.34 lbs /gallon under room temperature conditions at sea level (+20deg C, 29.92 inHg).
 
gfm7175 said:
^^^ This is YOUR issue.

You refuse to learn. I already explained the details to you about what a fact is and how facts work, but you completely ignored it.
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You made a pretty good explanation. I'm not surprised he just went into an argument of the Stone fallacy and started throwing insults.
Like a little child.
 
Libhater said:
And who might that be? I've known all about our government for decades now. I just put that meme up
there so you brainless libs can get the real facts of the U.S. being a Constitutional Republic, and not as
you libs believe it to be a democracy.
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Again, the term 'constitutional republic' is redundant. A republic has a constitution by definition.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Your anger is only matched by your pin-headed narrowmindedness, Hater. You've repeatedly proved you are a liar, not a Christian and not the brightest person even among MAGAts. In short, you're a fucking idiot. No wonder you're a loser who hates others.
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Inversion fallacy. Omniscience fallacy. Mantra 1a. Lame. MAGA isn't a person.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
wrong. all of it. maybe you should go back and read the historical beliefs of the founders not wanting a pure democracy.
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SOME of them did not. However the EC was not an attempt to keep us from a democracy. They did that by picking who could vote. It was landed educated people. It was not women. Not blacks.
 
Nordberg said:
SOME of them did not. However the EC was not an attempt to keep us from a democracy. They did that by picking who could vote. It was landed educated people. It was not women. Not blacks.
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No nation in history even wanted to be a 'pure democracy.' Notice only Trump fascists use this terminology.
 
Hume said:
No nation in history even wanted to be a 'pure democracy.' Notice only Trump fascists use this terminology.
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There is no such thing as a 'pure' or 'impure' democracy. There is a democracy, or there is not. The United States was never a democracy. Trump is a capitalist. It is DEMOCRATS that are socialists. Fascism is a form of socialism. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEMS ON TRUMP!
 
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