Lao Tse
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are you for a two state solution?
The West is racing towards WW3
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We have discovered that Ukraine can survive for months without US aid. trump wants to end the war quickly. he might just start sending Putin aid to help with genocide.
The whole purpose of aiding Ukraine is so it can remain a separate state, so I guess most people are for a two state solution in Ukraine.
Lao Tse
Verified User
separate from NATO?
It has been a long standing agreement that countries are allowed to decide what alliances they want. The USSR pushed for that.
Besides the bigger issue is the EU. If Ukraine joins the EU, and becomes a successful economy, the next question is why is Russia not a successful economy? At least with Estonia, Russians could say they were a very different ethnicity.
I think Ukraine should be successful members of the EU, if that is what they desire. If that pushes Russia to be less corrupt... That is ever better for me.
Lao Tse
Verified User
are you aware that Ukraine is CIA controlled puppet government?
Mason 22
Verified User
Putin has him by the mushroom head with that
Pee tape!
Looks like Putin has no interest in negotiating now.
Institute for the Study of War
Russian President Vladimir Putin explicitly rejected Russian participation in any meaningful negotiations on a ceasefire agreement, instead demanding Ukraine's "irreversible" "demilitarization" as a precondition for any ceasefire agreement. Putin is thuswww.understandingwar.org
Oh well.
I think it's important to note who funds the Institute of War, which runs the website you linked to:
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ISW was founded in response to the stagnation of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, with core funding provided by a group of defense contractors;[6] it continues to be supported by defense contractors as well as private donations.[7]
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Full article:
Institute for the Study of War - Wikipedia
Naturally, defense contractors would like to keep the cash flowing, and war does that nicely. Now let's compare your article with an article from RT that was just published today wherein Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban and President Putin were discussing the 'shortest way out' of the Ukraine conflict. Quoting from the article:
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The Russian president has reiterated Moscow’s readiness to resolve the hostility through negotiations. The Ukrainian leadership, however, appears to be still incapable of abandoning its idea of waging a war “until the end,” Putin noted.
Moscow is seeking to reach lasting, sustainable peace rather than opting for a temporary ceasefire or a “frozen conflict” of any sort, the Russian president warned.
There should not be a “ceasefire or some kind of pause that the Kiev regime could use to recover losses, regroup, and rearm. Russia is in favor of a complete and final end to the conflict,” he stressed.
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Full article:
Orban and Putin discuss ‘shortest way out’ of Ukraine conflict
Hungary’s PM Viktor Orban says he discussed “shortest way out” of the Ukrainian conflict with President Vladimir Putin during Moscow visit
I imagine that last bit comes in no small part due to Putin's disappointment with the former Minsk agreements:
Putin disappointed by Merkel's words about Minsk agreements
Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, has been disappointed by the statement of German ex-Chancellor Angela Merkel, where she claimed that the Minsk agreements of 2014 enabled Ukraine to prepare for the war with Russia.
Almost all of the think tanks are majorly funded by the WarPigs.I think it's important to note who funds the Institute of War, which runs the website you linked to:
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ISW was founded in response to the stagnation of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, with core funding provided by a group of defense contractors;[6] it continues to be supported by defense contractors as well as private donations.[7]
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Full article:
Institute for the Study of War - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Naturally, defense contractors would like to keep the cash flowing, and war does that nicely. Now let's compare your article with an article from RT that was just published today wherein Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban and President Putin were discussing the 'shortest way out' of the Ukraine conflict. Quoting from the article:
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The Russian president has reiterated Moscow’s readiness to resolve the hostility through negotiations. The Ukrainian leadership, however, appears to be still incapable of abandoning its idea of waging a war “until the end,” Putin noted.
Moscow is seeking to reach lasting, sustainable peace rather than opting for a temporary ceasefire or a “frozen conflict” of any sort, the Russian president warned.
There should not be a “ceasefire or some kind of pause that the Kiev regime could use to recover losses, regroup, and rearm. Russia is in favor of a complete and final end to the conflict,” he stressed.
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Full article:
Orban and Putin discuss ‘shortest way out’ of Ukraine conflict
Hungary’s PM Viktor Orban says he discussed “shortest way out” of the Ukrainian conflict with President Vladimir Putin during Moscow visitwww.rt.com
I imagine that last bit comes in no small part due to Putin's disappointment with the former Minsk agreements:
Putin disappointed by Merkel's words about Minsk agreements
Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, has been disappointed by the statement of German ex-Chancellor Angela Merkel, where she claimed that the Minsk agreements of 2014 enabled Ukraine to prepare for the war with Russia.www.yahoo.com
L/R R/D does not matter.
Its a UniParty.
The current front line in Ukraine is over 1,200 km long, a fact often ignored by armchair Generals suggesting that the pace of Russias advance is slow. The closest the US has ever come to a frontline of that scale would be the Western Front during World War I. When American Expeditionary Forces (AEF) fought alongside the Allies from 1917 to 1918, with the frontline stretching from the North Sea to the Swiss border. That's 440 miles (710 km) of trench warfare, mud, and misery.But even that pales in comparison to the current scale of the conflict in Ukraine, in reality, the Western Powers haven't fought anything close to a War against a peer power since WW2. it's exactly this kind of willful delusion that fuels the idiotic escalation we hear from European countries, least capable of fighting against anyone, let alone Russia. It's just another brick in the wall of ignorance and false realities presented to the Taxpayers of the EUSA as they are marched blindfolded by their own ignorance towards WW3
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
Well, one also could look at that situation like Russia isn't going to stop at Ukraine.
Nonsense.
Lao Tse
Verified User
they're actually kind of an oil giant.
dumbfuck CIA shill tard. that's why you bombed their pipeline, mossad-hole
Maybe Russia lacks freedom and prosperity because of the resource curse of the oil, but I think it is more their complete failure to try to live a western lifestyle. There is too much money for the elites to keep the status quo.
I have never bombed any pipelines. I doubt Mossad would bomb a pipeline in Northern Europe, they are kind of busy in Israel and the area.
Ukraine is not in NATO.
Making the argument that aircraft carriers are obsolete:
The Squadron of F/A-18E “Super Hornet” Multirole Fighters that were Relocated from the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) to a “Unnamed Partner-Airbase” in the Middle East is now Confirmed to have been Strike Fighter Squadron 25 (VFA-25) also known as the “Fist of the Fleet” from Naval Air Station Lemoore in California. While the Aircraft were initially at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, these Photos from DVIDS on August 3rd show them landing at Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan.
The Squadron of F/A-18E “Super Hornet” Multirole Fighters that were Relocated from the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) to a “Unnamed Partner-Airbase” in the Middle East is now Confirmed to have been Strike Fighter Squadron 25 (VFA-25) also known as the “Fist of the Fleet” from Naval Air Station Lemoore in California. While the Aircraft were initially at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, these Photos from DVIDS on August 3rd show them landing at Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan.
What would you do to save Democracy? To save America? To save the world? How will you vote in November?
If you’re not thinking about the end of the world by now, you’re either braindead or stuck in some remote corner of the world, totally removed from access to news.
Last week we came closer to a nuclear conflict between the US and Russia than at any time since the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962.
Today we are even closer.
.
.
.
But we no longer live in a sane world.
Moreover, given the fact that the underlying principle guiding US policies toward Russia is the misplaced notion that Russia is bluffing, any aggressive posturing we might engage in designed to promote and exploit the ambiguity derived from the first-strike potential inherent in existing US nuclear posture will, more likely than not, only fuel Russian paranoia about a potential US nuclear pre-emption, prompting Russia to pre-empt.
Russia isn’t bluffing.
And our refusal to acknowledge this has embarked us on a path where we appear more than willing to pre-empt life itself.
If you’re not thinking about the end of the world by now, you’re either braindead or stuck in some remote corner of the world, totally removed from access to news.
Last week we came closer to a nuclear conflict between the US and Russia than at any time since the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962.
Today we are even closer.
.
.
.
But we no longer live in a sane world.
Moreover, given the fact that the underlying principle guiding US policies toward Russia is the misplaced notion that Russia is bluffing, any aggressive posturing we might engage in designed to promote and exploit the ambiguity derived from the first-strike potential inherent in existing US nuclear posture will, more likely than not, only fuel Russian paranoia about a potential US nuclear pre-emption, prompting Russia to pre-empt.
Russia isn’t bluffing.
And our refusal to acknowledge this has embarked us on a path where we appear more than willing to pre-empt life itself.
