THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS...

[gfm7175]

YATA. No argument presented.

I'm glad to see that Mina's hallucinations of trolling have inspired you to add another acronym.

 

[gfm7175]

Entirely relevant, because it illustrates your category error. If you want to call the encoding system "binary," that's fine. In the same sense, in the computer you are using, "male" and "female" and "turnip" and "God," and "feces" are all recorded as a series of zeros and ones. But that doesn't mean there are only two things in that list. The computer can encode effectively infinite varieties of information using those on-off settings.

Continued ignoring of the etymology of the word 'binary'. That etymology has been described to you several times already. The reasoning as to why gender, sex chromosomes, and even the base-2 numbering system are all 'binary' systems has also been described to you several times already, as has the etymology of the word 'gender'. Remember, I speak English; I do not speak Liberal.

Define the term "non-binary person".
Identify and describe a gender other than male or female.
Identify and describe a sex chromosome other than X or Y.

The floor is yours.

Similarly, the X and the Y are the two sex chromosomes in humans, but that doesn't mean there are only two sexual categories. There are X's and Y's and XY and XX and XXY and XYY and so on. You can call those "copying errors," but everything about us could be described that way. For example, the Y chromosome is widely believed to be the result of a copying error from a set of genes that used to be identical, somewhere between 166 and 300 million years ago. Copying errors are a fundamental feature of evolution.

Abnormal is not normal.

 

[evince]

What do any of those random phrases have to do with my OP??

Try again.

Everything


Sex is also in the humans mind which is extremely complex


You are just too stupid or stubborn to examine the entire reality of this issue


Science has

 

[evince]

Continued ignoring of the etymology of the word 'binary'. That etymology has been described to you several times already. The reasoning as to why gender, sex chromosomes, and even the base-2 numbering system are all 'binary' systems has also been described to you several times already, as has the etymology of the word 'gender'. Remember, I speak English; I do not speak Liberal.

Define the term "non-binary person".
Identify and describe a gender other than male or female.
Identify and describe a sex chromosome other than X or Y.

The floor is yours.


Abnormal is not normal.

Einstein was abnormal too

 

[evince]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5286723/




Sex in the brain: hormones and sex differences

Jordan Marrocco, PhD and Bruce S. McEwen, PhD


Two PHDs in the subject


You won’t learn from them because you don’t want to learn


That makes you stupid and uneducated


Why would you want that to be your fate?


Russo bot hole is my guess

 

[Mina]

Continued ignoring of the etymology of the word 'binary'.

I'm not. Reread. I've specifically addressed that semantic argument. If you want to call the encoding system "binary," fine, but that means the algorithm that encodes sex is binary, not that there are only two outcomes for that algorithm. In the same way, the algorithms in your computer are binary, in the sense that every bit of information is either an "on" or an "off," but that doesn't mean the output of the algorithm is binary. It can encode infinite varieties of information, just as different combinations of X and Y can create more possibilities than just X and Y (X, Y, XX, XY, XXY, XYY, XXX, etc.)

Define the term "non-binary person".

Sure: someone who identifies neither as male nor female.

Identify and describe a gender other than male or female.

Sure: non binary.

Identify and describe a sex chromosome other than X or Y.

Sure: Z and W.

 

[gfm7175]

Everything


Sex is also in the humans mind which is extremely complex


You are just too stupid or stubborn to examine the entire reality of this issue


Science has

More random phrases. Obviously you are incapable of coherently responding to the OP, let alone following the rules within it.

 

[gfm7175]

Einstein was abnormal too

You very clearly don't understand how this thread works.

 

[gfm7175]

I'm not.

Yes, you are.

Reread.

No need.

I've specifically addressed that semantic argument.

No, you keep ignoring the content and rules of the OP, as well as the etymology of several key words.

If you want to call the encoding system "binary," fine, but that means the algorithm that encodes sex is binary, not that there are only two outcomes for that algorithm.

Already addressed ad nauseum.

In the same way, the algorithms in your computer are binary, in the sense that every bit of information is either an "on" or an "off," but that doesn't mean the output of the algorithm is binary. It can encode infinite varieties of information, just as different combinations of X and Y can create more possibilities than just X and Y (X, Y, XX, XY, XXY, XYY, XXX, etc.)

Learn what 'binary' means. Your "infinite varieties" tripe is completely irrelevant to the definition of a binary system for reasons already addressed ad nauseum.

Sure: someone who identifies neither as male nor female.

Sure: non binary.

You have yet to identify nor describe to me a specific gender other than male or female, as my thread rules dictate that you do.

All you have provided to me thus far is a listing of two specific genders (male and female) that this supposed third gender is not. You have yet to provide me with any sort of identification/description as to what this supposed third gender actually is.

Why is this an issue? It is an issue because you are not actually saying anything that is meaningful to me. If I didn't know what a 'walk-in shower' was, would it be helpful to me if you were to define a 'walk-in shower' as "not a bath tub"? Of course not!

Sure: Z and W.

Context error. This thread is specifically about HUMANS, not about animals such as birds that make use of the ZW system rather than the XY system that humans make use of (and that this thread is about).

The ZW system, like the XY system, is a binary system (in which male = ZZ and female = ZW). In that particular system, males (instead of females) are the homogametic gender.

 

[Mina]

You have yet to identify nor describe to me a specific gender other than male or female, as my thread rules dictate that you do.

Incorrect, reread. "Non-binary."

All you have provided to me thus far is a listing of two specific genders (male and female) that this supposed third gender is not. You have yet to provide me with any sort of identification/description as to what this supposed third gender actually is.

Look, I get it: you're super insecure about your gender, and so the idea of acknowledging the category of "non-binary" makes you feel kind of funny in the bathing suit area. But your discomfort with the category doesn't erase its existence as a category.

Why is this an issue? It is an issue because you are not actually saying anything that is meaningful to me. If I didn't know what a 'walk-in shower' was, would it be helpful to me if you were to define a 'walk-in shower' as "not a bath tub"? Of course not!

I'm neither an extravert nor an introvert. I'm something in between. You can sob and shake your little fists at the heavens and curse me for not falling into your binary system, yet that fact will remain. And, in the same way, it remains for people who don't fall into the two gender categories you're willing to accept.

Context error.

You asked the question. I answered. If you'd like to move the goal posts now, whatever. But asked and answered.

The ZW system, like the XY system, is a binary system (in which male = ZZ and female = ZW). In that particular system, males (instead of females) are the homogametic gender.

I haven't studied it enough to be sure, but I expect not. I expect there are some that have combinations other than those two, just as there are with humans and the X and Y system.

 

[gfm7175]

Incorrect, reread. "Non-binary."

You have merely made up a word. You have yet to identify or describe it in any meaningful way.

Look, I get it:

Your posts indicate that you don't get much of anything.

you're super insecure about your gender, and so the idea of acknowledging the category of "non-binary" makes you feel kind of funny in the bathing suit area. But your discomfort with the category doesn't erase its existence as a category.

Attempted mockery and personal insults. Too bad those aren't valid forms of argumentation. Try again.

I'm neither an extravert nor an introvert. I'm something in between.

Gender refers to one's anatomy, not one's behavior. False equivalence.

You can sob and shake your little fists at the heavens and curse me for not falling into your binary system, yet that fact will remain. And, in the same way, it remains for people who don't fall into the two gender categories you're willing to accept.

It's not my system. You are the one who is sobbing and shaking your fists because you don't like science.

You asked the question. I answered.

You did not provide a valid answer, per my thread rules. Like I said in my prior response, you cannot define a word by listing a couple of things that the word is NOT. You must describe what the word IS. Try again.

If you'd like to move the goal posts now, whatever. But asked and answered.

I haven't moved anything; stop lying through your teeth. See above.

I haven't studied it enough to be sure, but I expect not. I expect there are some that have combinations other than those two, just as there are with humans and the X and Y system.

Learn what a binary system is so that you don't continue to look like a blathering idiot.

 

[ZenMode]

And both are connected to a complex human mind


Interesting you folks want minds zeroed out of the equation

Imagination doesn't change science.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

In about 1% of all births, babies have some form of ambiguous genitalia, such as a very large clitoris or very small penis. In more rare cases—between 0.1% and 0.2% of live births—genitalia is so ambiguous that medical specialists are brought in for a consultation.

Yes, it's rare- BUT IT EXISTS!

The problem children have is when they realize they are not normal.

If you were a parent to one of these rare cases, you would probably understand the complexity of the issue and empathize with it yourself.

All youth require the support and acceptance of their family, peers, and communities to thrive. Transgender and gender-nonconforming youth are no exception; their health and well-being is heavily influenced by the institutions and communities that surround them. Although youth who identify as a gender other than the one assigned to them at birth have among the highest rates of suicide, depression, and self-harm, a supportive and safe environment can significantly reduce these risks. Ensuring that transgender youth are referred to according to their identified genders, and with their chosen names, is a critical factor in establishing this type of environment.

you're an idiot.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

you're an idiot.

When you cannot defend your position- CALL THEM AN IDIOT!

Brilliant!

This is why you have TRUMPTARD STAMPED ACROSS YOUR FOREHEAD!

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

When you cannot defend your position- CALL THEM AN IDIOT!

Brilliant!

we don't have to mislead children about gender to normalize trans for a small percent of freaks.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

we don't have to mislead children about gender to normalize trans for a small percent of freaks.

That's all a part of your imagination! I don't know of anyone misleading children- expect the likes of people that are running with this conspiracy theory Fox News has used to inflame your weak vulnerable ignorant ass!

Fox News just loves stupid weak-minded people like you! In fact their whole thrust and agenda depends on people like you who will believe everything they say without question or research so they can get your shit all hot and spurting out of control!

This is all non-sense- AND YOU BELIEVE IN NON-SENSE!

Typical Trumptard!

 

[Damocles]

This thread still is useless, I have no urge to convince anyone of this. It doesn't matter if there is such a thing or if there isn't. Folks get to think and act differently than what you believe, even in things you think aren't "real".

This is a bit like insisting you call a Priest something other than "Father" because they aren't your dad. It's something you can do, but it really is just useless activity for no reason other than you want folks to know you don't believe their religion. I get it, they aren't your dad.... Why should I pretend I care to convince you that you are in some way "wrong"?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

That's all a part of your imagination! I don't know of anyone misleading children- expect the likes of people that are running with this conspiracy theory Fox News has used to inflame your weak vulnerable ignorant ass!

Fox News just loves stupid weak-minded people like you! In fact their whole thrust and agenda depends on people like you who will believe everything they say without question or research so they can get your shit all hot and spurting out of control!

This is all non-sense- AND YOU BELIEVE IN NON-SENSE!

Typical Trumptard!

it is normalizing trans for a small percentage of real trans.

they're acutually pressuring normal kids into it with this much attention.

getting kids to destroy their own genitals is a win for the nazi globalists.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

it is normalizing trans for a small percentage of real trans.

they're acutually pressuring normal kids into it with this much attention.

getting kids to destroy their own genitals is a win for the nazi globalists.

Man I can deal with some of your comments- and even some of your legitimate concerns! But stop with the Global Nazi Bullshit! OK?

Show me any child that was coaxed into having a sex-change operation! SHOW ME ANY KID THAT HAS HAD A SEX CHANGE OPERATION!

Here your imagination has run away with itself again!

Do you honestly believe that doctors are performing sex-operations on children?

I don't believe it! I don't even believe there all that many sex-operations performed here in the US on consenting adults.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Man I can deal with some of your comments- and even some of your legitimate concerns! But stop with the Global Nazi Bullshit! OK?

Show me any child that was coaxed into having a sex-change operation! SHOW ME ANY KID THAT HAS HAD A SEX CHANGE OPERATION!

Here your imagination has run away with itself again!

Do you honestly believe that doctors are performing sex-operations on children?

I don't believe it! I don't even believe there all that many sex-operations performed here in the US on consenting adults.

yes. how about puberty blockers, and sex operations. doctors are doing that.

they're also ill.