THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS...

Into the Night said:
You haven't described any sex other than male or female. You haven't discussed any sex chromosome other than X or Y.
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I don't sit around wondering why or how people live their own truths. It takes nothing away from me for someone else to live their lives as they see fit as long as they aren't hurting anyone.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Fuck off DOUCHEBAG!
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To ITN: Yup, definitely here to troll.

To Geeko: Have you come up with a sex other than male or female and a sex chromosome other than X or Y yet?? Let me know when you do... Until then, "non-binary person" remains an undefined buzzword.
 
Damocles said:
The point I am making
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You have yet to make ANY valid point within this thread, actually. You, like all the others so far, have not provided me with a response to my OP that adheres to the rules that I set within it.

Damocles said:
is that this is a useless waste of energy.
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Since when are both science and truth a "useless waste of energy"?

Damocles said:
Like a philosophy degree. With this and 50 cents you could buy a 1987 soda pop.
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[1] Define "non-binary person", per Rule #1.
[2] Identify and describe a third sex other than male or female, per Rule #2a.
[3] Identify and describe a third sex chromosome other than X or Y, per Rule #2b.

The floor is yours.
 
Coolred44 said:
I don't sit around wondering why or how people live their own truths. It takes nothing away from me for someone else to live their lives as they see fit as long as they aren't hurting anyone.
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None of this is relevant to my OP.

Define "non-binary person".
Identify and describe a sex other than male or female.
Identify and describe a sex chromosome other than X or Y.

The floor is yours.
 
gfm7175 said:
I can tell. That's why nobody who disagrees with the position stated in my OP has been able to follow my thread rules. They can only disagree with me in an irrational manner.
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No the problem is that you linked genders to chromosomes. It's impossible to discuss within your rules. You established rules then declares victory when nobody could "debunk" it.
 
STILL no answers to the questions asked in the OP...

Poor libtards and delusion condoners...

There's still time to provide me with a third sex or a third sex chromosome... ;) ;)
 
Into the Night said:
No, you have not answered his question. Stop lying. Fallacy fallacy.
Since you obviously agree with his conclusion, you are just trolling now.
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No I do not agree. He is tying genders to chromosomes, making it impossible to discuss. It's a form of controlling the debate.
 
gfm7175 said:
... a "gender non-binary person". Change my mind.


Here are the rules of this thread; the requirements in order to change my mind:

[1] You MUST clearly and unambiguously define the term "gender non-binary person" (or "genderqueer person") in a manner that doesn't violate logic and/or science. --- Any and all appeals to HOLY LINKS (e.g, to Wikipedia or to a random dictionary definition) are NOT ALLOWED and will be summarily dismissed on sight.

[2] You MUST clearly and unambiguously describe a "third option" of some sort. Meaning, you must identify and describe:

[2a] A sex other than male or female.
[2b] A sex chromosome other than X or Y.


The floor is yours!
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First, you seem to be confusing sex and gender. There are definitely sex chromosome arrangements other than XX and XY. There's XXX and X and XYY, and XXY, and many others.

And there are people who have different sex chromosomes in different cells. Basically, multiple embryos can wind up fusing very early on and forming into a single person who has both XX and XY chromosomes, spread through the body (chimerism). That doesn't just happen with sex chromosomes, either-- it can happen with other genes, as well. When it hits genes impacting skin coloration, people can have odd color patterns in their skin:

https://www.livescience.com/61890-what-is-chimerism-fused-twin.html

And chromosomes aren't the only thing determining biological sex. For example, there are people who are XY yet appear outwardly to be normal women, because they have androgen insensitivity -- meaning their body never responded to the sex hormones that would have caused them to develop male anatomy.

So, even when we're just talking biological sex, it's not a simple binary matter.

What people talk about with gender is different from that, though. It's about which of society's two big gender classifications, men and women, a person more identifies with, if either. It's not about physiology, but rather about psychology. Those who don't feel they identify clearly with either will be said to be non-binary. It's a bit like being asked if you're an extravert or an introvert and feeling neither category really captures your individual situation quite right, and so you reject that binary divide. For some reason, that really distressing some people when it happens in the context of gender.
 
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