This Time Nobody Won.

AssHatZombie said:
trumps pushing back on globalism and china more than any president in recent history.
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He did that when he and Ivanka made their trinkets in China and the 3rfd world?. Was it when Ivanka got 34 trademarks from China while pretending to care about American workers and on our payroll. Was it when Trump was running while he was negotiating Trump Moscow and lying about it? Exactly when did you figure out a guy with businesses all over the world is not a globalist?
 
TOP said:
How? No one really wanted Joe....or thinks he'll be able to do the job....they just didn't want Trump....
If Biden wins, America loses...the next 4 years will be miserable....
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Delusional. People wanted Biden, they just didn't make as much noise as trumpers. Biden didn't get the most popular votes ever because people didn't want him.
 
cawacko said:
For sh*ts and giggles, when you meet you people in the real world (say a new neighbor or parent's of your kid's friends or a co-worker) do you attempt to determine their politics immediately to know whether they are worthy of your time or being in your presence? How do you feel people out so to speak in that regard?
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Usually I can spot a troglodyte right away.
If I don't, I decide about somebody when the subject does reveal itself.
I can think that a person is great and can consider him/her a potential friend, but if socially regressive leanings reveal themselves at any time, no other trait redeems that person for me. They lose human status immediately in my eyes.
I have no tolerance for the moral and intellectual deficiencies of non-socialists, using socialism in the accurate way and not the obsolete cold war connotation that trumpanzees use.
I leave no room for exceptions.
Reactionary right wing values are tolerated in no context whatsoever.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
While nothing is official yet, it looks like Biden and a Republican Senate--ie, GRIDLOCK.

We have proven one thing and one thing only.

American "unity" is a Pollyanna pipedream.
Ain't happening.
None of us will live to see it.

One half of Americans are just as morally deficient, intellectually deficient, and clearly irredeemable as the diseased orangutan Trump. That's evident. That's fact.

The rest of us will never be able to disguise the fact that we find them more repugnant than a steaming pile of pigshit. That's evident. That's fact.

They KNOW that we look down our noses at them. We're not saints. We can't help it. And they will always hate us for watching them wallow in their total inferiority.
They're trash. They know it, even as stupid as they are. They know that we know it.

The best Americans on our side know that Joe Biden is no prize. He'll be a mediocre president trying to deal with a fascist senate and a fascist supreme court.
There will be no improvements. At best, the deterioration will be slowed down a bit for a while. It likely won't be enough to save the republic.
We just need to decide if the republic is worth saving, and it doesn't seem that we'll even be able to do that.

I don't understand the latter. It should be obvious that the fifty-state American model is a complete failure.
Let's have the balls to try something that can work.
Both sides--the troglodytes and the enlightened--will be happier.
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Just sew them together like Siamese twins. Problem solved.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Usually I can spot a troglodyte right away.
If I don't, I decide about somebody when the subject does reveal itself.
I can think that a person is great and can consider him/her a potential friend, but if socially regressive leanings reveal themselves at any time, no other trait redeems that person for me. They lose human status immediately in my eyes.
I have no tolerance for the moral and intellectual deficiencies of non-socialists, using socialism in the accurate way and not the obsolete cold war connotation that trumpanzees use.
I leave no room for exceptions.
Reactionary right wing values are tolerated in no context whatsoever.
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Following up on that how do you react to people who are 100% Democrats but say Fvxk Bernie and his democratic socialism?
 
I want the electoral fraud from this year to be exposed and the perpetrators to hang publicly.

All of them. It's probably hundreds, and many sold out their fellow Americans and country for a pittance.
 
cawacko said:
Following up on that how do you react to people who are 100% Democrats but say Fvxk Bernie and his democratic socialism?
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The Democratic Party is destined to split between the old school DINOs and the European-style Social Democrats.
ALL FOUR MEMBERS OF THE "SQUAD" WON GOING AWAY in the House this week.
That's the way of the future. The Social Democrats aren't just young ones. Bernie isn't young. Liz isn't young. I'm not young. But the young are overwhelmingly liberal.

That will throw every future presidential race into the House of Representatives. The national vote--popular and electoral alike--will be meaningless, but the DINO-SQUAD House coalition means Republicans will never win again.
That gives the preservation of America a fighting chance.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
The Democratic Party is destined to split between the old school DINOs and the European-style Social Democrats.
ALL FOUR MEMBERS OF THE "SQUAD" WON GOING AWAY in the House this week.
That's the way of the future. The Social Democrats aren't just young ones. Bernie isn't young. Liz isn't young. I'm not young. But the young are overwhelmingly liberal.

That will throw every future presidential race into the House of Representatives. The national vote--popular and electoral alike--will be meaningless, but the DINO-SQUAD House coalition means Republicans will never win again.
That gives the preservation of America a fighting chance.
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I was more curious about people who share that belief that you run into in the real world. Based on what you are saying you and I would never be friends (although I rarely talk politics but maybe you could sniff me out) but if you meet someone who says they are a Biden supporter do you have a test of some sort to know if they are a DINO or democratic socialist and thus worthy of your friendship?
 
I as a Social-Democrat differ from old-school Democrats the way Democrats used to differ from Republicans--they were opponents but not enemies.

Democrats and Republicans haven't been political opponents since Newt. We've been ideological enemies who cannot co-exist in peace since then.
 
christiefan915 said:
trump voters don't want a policy wonk they wouldn't understand. They're happy with a reality show host.
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I see numerous people complaining on Facebook about the number of people who don’t vote. Yet, as we see here, people complain about low information voters. So which is it? Should people who don’t follow politics, and definitely aren’t policy wonks, vote anyway?
 
christiefan915 said:
Delusional. People wanted Biden, they just didn't make as much noise as trumpers. Biden didn't get the most popular votes ever because people didn't want him.
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talk about delusional - your popular vote win is purely due to California and one party rule in that nut job hell hole of a state

the popular vote of the other 49 states picked Trump over Biden (and Clinton)
 
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