Thoughts on the Covid effect

[Daddyo]

He is responsible for one-third of world deaths and cases that we have in America. He did nothing for 6 weeks then fucked it up afterward. Nobody is near our level of Corona. That is all leadership or lack of it.

You are so full of crap it's scary. He made a decision in January that most said was to much at the time including your demonrat senile Joe biden.

Based on your insanely stupid logic then Obama is responsible of most of the world's deaths and infections from the swine flu as he did nothing at all about it. Come to think about it he owes me 2 co pays since both my boys got that shit.

 

[Daddyo]

4 week after China said they were investigating a respiratory illness Trump initiated the coronavirus task force 2 days later Trump bans flights from China. 6 weeks is a liberal lie.

I doesn't matter! They dont have a right to say a freaking thing when they attacked Trump for that china travel decision. They just aren't smart enough to understand the hypocrisy of their position today.

Never mind that they are wrong and full of crap. The president has done a great job given the information at the time. Much of which was horse shit including from load Fauci.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Wall St is doing so well because of:

1) The Fed
2) People are betting on a sharp recovery when the country does open back up
3) The top stocks, Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook & Google are absolutely crushing it right now

That is pretty accurate in my opinion.

And besides, Wall Street is not exactly Main Street!

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

which means that Wall St. doesn't have a damned thing to do with Joe Schmoe's wallet...it's all about the corps, high investors and their hip connection to the Fed. A disgrace.

Trumps connection to the Fed is not exactly Hip!

Donald Trump asked the Fed for a fractional Fed rate- meaning less than zero! Hilarious!

They probably looked at him and said, "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND"? I just wished I would have been there!

I can see the Treasury Secretary facepalming now!

This happened just recently the day the cost of a barrel of oil temporarily went into negative dollars!

Donald Trump's brain never ceases to amaze me! LOL!

 

[Nordberg]

You do understand that presidents are still on the clock on the golf course or a rally. You all defended Obama hard enough when he was playing golf. I guess because Trump has a R instead of a D makes the difference in your eyes.

I understand that is theoretical, not factual.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I understand that is theoretical, not factual.

It is factual! If you remember president Bush was reading to some school kids when the planes hit the WTC and Pentagon. The president then ended the the visit as soon as possible and gave the order to ground all flights as quick as possible.

Clearly you didn't have a civics class.

 

[Walt]

It is factual! If you remember president Bush was reading to some school kids when the planes hit the WTC and Pentagon. The president then ended the the visit as soon as possible and gave the order to ground all flights as quick as possible. Clearly you didn't have a civics class.

That did not happen. Bush stood around in the classroom for nearly 30 minutes. No one knows who grounded flights, but it was not the President. Bush spent the rest of the day on Air Force One, but was difficult for those in command to get in touch with.

The key issue was the shutting down of the air traffic control system. It was a huge order that they tried to get Bush to give, but he did not. The best guess of who did it was a Canadian in charge of NORAD. It was an awkward situation for a foreigner to be giving orders to shutdown travel in the USA, and to possibly kill Americans who did not follow that order.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

That did not happen. Bush stood around in the classroom for nearly 30 minutes. No one knows who grounded flights, but it was not the President. Bush spent the rest of the day on Air Force One, but was difficult for those in command to get in touch with.

The key issue was the shutting down of the air traffic control system. It was a huge order that they tried to get Bush to give, but he did not. The best guess of who did it was a Canadian in charge of NORAD. It was an awkward situation for a foreigner to be giving orders to shutdown travel in the USA, and to possibly kill Americans who did not follow that order.

Walt

Here is a brief time line that shows you are full of shit. The only thing you got right was Bush didn't give the grounding order.

8:50 a.m.:
President George W. Bush is informed that a plane hit the north tower of the World Trade Center while he visits an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida.
9:05 a.m.:
Bush, still at the Florida elementary school, is told that a second plane has crashed into the south tower. He then makes a televised statement outside of the school, calling the attacks a “national tragedy.”
After delivering a brief statement to the nation (''Terrorism against our nation will not stand,” he said), he and the rest of the passengers of Air Force One were rushed on board.
9:42 a.m.:
All civilian flights across the U.S. are grounded by the FAA.
(11th, 2001, Ben Sliney, chief of air-traffic-control operations at the FAA's command center in Herndon, Va., gave the unprecedented order to ground 4,000-plus planes across the nation and redirect any in the sky to the nearest airport. It was his first day on the job.)

https://www.govtech.com/em/safety/Timeline-of-How-the-Tragic-Events-Unfolded-on-Sept-11-2001.html
https://www.history.com/news/september-11-air-force-one-president-bush

 

[Walt]

9:05 a.m.:
Bush, still at the Florida elementary school, is told that a second plane has crashed into the south tower. He then makes a televised statement outside of the school, calling the attacks a “national tragedy.”
After delivering a brief statement to the nation (''Terrorism against our nation will not stand,” he said), he and the rest of the passengers of Air Force One were rushed on board.

Bush was told that America was under attack at 9:05. He then spent 7 minutes reading My Pet Goat surrounded by children. The Secret Service was finally able to convince him to leave the children, and he went out in the hallway. 20 minutes after that, he gave a press conference. That is 27 minutes total by my math. What does your math say?

 

[RB 60]

Bush was told that America was under attack at 9:05. He then spent 7 minutes reading My Pet Goat surrounded by children. The Secret Service was finally able to convince him to leave the children, and he went out in the hallway. 20 minutes after that, he gave a press conference. That is 27 minutes total by my math. What does your math say?

Didn't everyone think the first plane was a tragic accident until the second one hit?

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Walt
Bush was told that America was under attack at 9:05. He then spent 7 minutes reading My Pet Goat surrounded by children. The Secret Service was finally able to convince him to leave the children, and he went out in the hallway. 20 minutes after that, he gave a press conference. That is 27 minutes total by my math. What does your math say?

Didn't everyone think the first plane was a tragic accident until the second one hit?

8:55 AM
U.S. Pres. George W. Bush, who has arrived at an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida, is told that a plane has struck the World Trade Center, though details are uncertain.
https://www.britannica.com/list/timeline-of-the-september-11-attacks

Pay attention: REGARDLESS as to speculation....the POTUS is immediately notified if a disaster of such proportions befalls the USA. History has shown President's dropping everything is a national transit strike occurs! The Shrub froze, he was an incompetent. A matter of fact, a matter of history. Deal with it.

 

[RB 60]

8:55 AM
U.S. Pres. George W. Bush, who has arrived at an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida, is told that a plane has struck the World Trade Center, though details are uncertain.
https://www.britannica.com/list/timeline-of-the-september-11-attacks

Pay attention: REGARDLESS as to speculation....the POTUS is immediately notified if a disaster of such proportions befalls the USA. History has shown President's dropping everything is a national transit strike occurs! The Shrub froze, he was an incompetent. A matter of fact, a matter of history. Deal with it.

Yes, we know Walt. You would have known that first plane was an attack and not just a freak accident hitting a tall building.

Walt, you should run for president since you have such insight. You da man!!

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
8:55 AM
U.S. Pres. George W. Bush, who has arrived at an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida, is told that a plane has struck the World Trade Center, though details are uncertain.
https://www.britannica.com/list/time...ber-11-attacks

Pay attention: REGARDLESS as to speculation....the POTUS is immediately notified if a disaster of such proportions befalls the USA. History has shown President's dropping everything is a national transit strike occurs! The Shrub froze, he was an incompetent. A matter of fact, a matter of history. Deal with it.

Yes, we know Walt. You would have known that first plane was an attack and not just a freak accident hitting a tall building.

Walt, you should run for president since you have such insight. You da man!!

First off, read the screen name....Taichiliberal, not Walt. And whether it was deliberate or an accident....it's a freaking national disaster that requires immediate attention! Know your history....President's have dropped everything to respond to wild cat strikes that immediately effect the nation. A commercial 747 smacking into an icon in the center of the financial hub of the world in one of our premier cities certainly qualifies the President to have said, " Hey kids, I'm just told that I have to get back to my office in the White House to take care of something I forgot to do...so we'll have to stop here. I'll be back one day to finish the story." Or something to that effect.

Stop being a toady and apologist for the idiocy of the likes of the Shrub and (now) Dump.

Secondly...your lame retort in no way excuses or alleviates the historical facts and ramifications of the Shrub's reaction (or lack thereof)

 

[RB 60]

First off, read the screen name....Taichiliberal, not Walt. And whether it was deliberate or an accident....it's a freaking national disaster that requires immediate attention! Know your history....President's have dropped everything to respond to wild cat strikes that immediately effect the nation. A commercial 747 smacking into an icon in the center of the financial hub of the world in one of our premier cities certainly qualifies the President to have said, " Hey kids, I'm just told that I have to get back to my office in the White House to take care of something I forgot to do...so we'll have to stop here. I'll be back one day to finish the story." Or something to that effect.

Stop being a toady and apologist for the idiocy of the likes of the Shrub and (now) Dump.

Secondly...your lame retort in no way excuses or alleviates the historical facts and ramifications of the Shrub's reaction (or lack thereof)

I apologize for my error.
That said, immediate attention? WTF was the president to do IF it was an accident? Lie to those kids and do ...what? You scream Trump lies, I guess it's appropriate to lie to kids though

It's rather obvious you have a hatred for every republican. You criticize their action as inaction no matter the circumstance. Have you criticized anyone on the left for their action or inaction?

I'm not making excuses. You are.

Oh, and spare me the "lame" shit. You aren't that cultured.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
First off, read the screen name....Taichiliberal, not Walt. And whether it was deliberate or an accident....it's a freaking national disaster that requires immediate attention! Know your history....President's have dropped everything to respond to wild cat strikes that immediately effect the nation. A commercial 747 smacking into an icon in the center of the financial hub of the world in one of our premier cities certainly qualifies the President to have said, " Hey kids, I'm just told that I have to get back to my office in the White House to take care of something I forgot to do...so we'll have to stop here. I'll be back one day to finish the story." Or something to that effect.

Stop being a toady and apologist for the idiocy of the likes of the Shrub and (now) Dump.

Secondly...your lame retort in no way excuses or alleviates the historical facts and ramifications of the Shrub's reaction (or lack thereof)

I apologize for my error.
That said, immediate attention? WTF was the president to do IF it was an accident? Lie to those kids and do ...what? You scream Trump lies, I guess it's appropriate to lie to kids though

It's rather obvious you have a hatred for every republican. You criticize their action as inaction no matter the circumstance. Have you criticized anyone on the left for their action or inaction?

I'm not making excuses. You are.

Oh, and spare me the "lame" shit. You aren't that cultured.

I swear, I don't know if you're truly this damn dumb or just insipidly stubborn.

Are you truly thinking that this silly assed "is he supposed to lie to the kids" tact is a valid excuse for his inactions? I just gave a quick example as to how to handle such....or perhaps you wanted the dummy to say, "Gee kids, a shitload of people just died in NYC in a plane that crashed into a building! I gotta go!"?

The lengths you right wing wonks will go to defend the inane actions of your leadership is amazing. You default to the SOS babble that any documented and legitimate criticism of your icons is done by "haters". Sorry toodles, but what happened is a matter of history and a matter of fact. Whether you deal with it, accept it or not is of no consequence. Blather on, bunky.

 

[RB 60]

I swear, I don't know if you're truly this damn dumb or just insipidly stubborn.

Are you truly thinking that this silly assed "is he supposed to lie to the kids" tact is a valid excuse for his inactions? I just gave a quick example as to how to handle such....or perhaps you wanted the dummy to say, "Gee kids, a shitload of people just died in NYC in a plane that crashed into a building! I gotta go!"?

The lengths you right wing wonks will go to defend the inane actions of your leadership is amazing. You default to the SOS babble that any documented and legitimate criticism of your icons is done by "haters". Sorry toodles, but what happened is a matter of history and a matter of fact. Whether you deal with it, accept it or not is of no consequence. Blather on, bunky.

Say what you will, it's been repeated many times.You never accept the fact that your compelling left is not perfect.

Save me your bullshit, I've had enough of it.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I swear, I don't know if you're truly this damn dumb or just insipidly stubborn.

Are you truly thinking that this silly assed "is he supposed to lie to the kids" tact is a valid excuse for his inactions? I just gave a quick example as to how to handle such....or perhaps you wanted the dummy to say, "Gee kids, a shitload of people just died in NYC in a plane that crashed into a building! I gotta go!"?

The lengths you right wing wonks will go to defend the inane actions of your leadership is amazing. You default to the SOS babble that any documented and legitimate criticism of your icons is done by "haters". Sorry toodles, but what happened is a matter of history and a matter of fact. Whether you deal with it, accept it or not is of no consequence. Blather on, bunky.

Say what you will, it's been repeated many times.You never accept the fact that your compelling left is not perfect.

Save me your bullshit, I've had enough of it.

As the reader can clearly see, when confronted with basic facts that are easily documented, RB60 stubbornly holds onto his rather bizarre interpretations that defy fact and logic. Then, in a last ditch effort, he just blathers some nonsense about repetition and that the "left is not perfect", as if that justifies his revisionist drivel.

Yeah, RB60 can't handle the truth about his little right wing gods....but yet he's always commenting on threads of people he doesn't agree with. If he had something worthwhile to contribute, I would keep him out of the IA bin longer. But as you can see, he doesn't. So back he goes for another few months. Maybe next time he'll grow up, or wise up.

 

[Nordberg]

It is factual! If you remember president Bush was reading to some school kids when the planes hit the WTC and Pentagon. The president then ended the the visit as soon as possible and gave the order to ground all flights as quick as possible.

Clearly you didn't have a civics class.

Wrong. Bush was very slow to leave. His handlers had to poke him a couple of times to get him to move. Is there no factual history that rightys will not rewrite? Even little ones like that?

 

[Nordberg]

It is factual! If you remember president Bush was reading to some school kids when the planes hit the WTC and Pentagon. The president then ended the the visit as soon as possible and gave the order to ground all flights as quick as possible.

Clearly you didn't have a civics class.

Trump's golfing is so frequent that he has to be ignoring his job.Remember when he said he will not have time to play golf if he became president? How did that work out? He doesn't have time to be president becuse of his golf. And oh yeah, his famous TV watching and personal time cut away more.

 

[Nordberg]

Didn't everyone think the first plane was a tragic accident until the second one hit?

Don't say everyone. Once you do that, you are wrong.