Time for a change

StoneByStone said:
Dutch Uncle has no convictions. He's a "Moderate."
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Lying about others will only make your friends realize you are full of shit and not to be trusted. It's like the friend who is always talking behind the back of others. Makes you wonder what they say behind your back. ;)

By lying about me, others will realize you are a liar. Some will begin to wonder what else you lie about.
 
StoneByStone said:
No, I don't vote third party so I can brag about how enlightened I am.
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Who is bragging about voting third party because they are enlightened? What are you bragging about? Why are you demeaning others for voting differently than you? For believing differently than you? For looking differently than you? Is that something you should be bragging about?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Who is bragging about voting third party because they are enlightened? What are you bragging about? Why are you demeaning others for voting differently than you? For believing differently than you? For looking differently than you? Is that something you should be bragging about?
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I sometimes demean people for shooting themselves in the foot in order to come off as smart or edgy.
 
StoneByStone said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
More like if Biden wins, we get the SOS like with Slick Willy and Obama....a little gain here and there while major concessions to the corporate right wing are still happening.
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And that would be worse than Fascism?

If Dump gets in, we may (hopefully) see something akin to Nixon's resignation before the country implodes...unless the Dems get the edge in the House and Senate and stonewall like they did Obama for 8 years.
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Trump isn't going to resign, period.

Do you want a chance to vote for an actual Leftist in the future? Or do you want a Dictatorship?
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1. No, but "stop gaps" like this are becoming less effective....paving the road for something even worse than Dump & company down the road.

2. Oh he'll resign if his backers decide to disown him and publicly blow the whistle on him. Enough damage to the party's image coupled with a split between real conservative republicans and the fascist leaning ones will result in his removal, as his ego can't stand OFFICIAL recognition of his chicanery. I've already answered that question. Besides, being that the electoral vote pretty much nullifies my vote, your question becomes irrelevant.
 
Trump is incompetent, not very bright, self serving and corrupt. I cannot imagine a way to choose him over any other choice. I am not a Biden fan. He chose to run too late in life, but so did Trump. I do not like his mistatements, but Trump has more. Biden needed a way to mitigate his verbal errors, Trump is the man for the job. His lies would be humorous if he was not in the most powerful job on the planet. This 4 year nightmare has to end.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump is incompetent, not very bright, self serving and corrupt. I cannot imagine a way to choose him over any other choice. I am not a Biden fan. He chose to run too late in life, but so did Trump. I do not like his mistatements, but Trump has more. Biden needed a way to mitigate his verbal errors, Trump is the man for the job. His lies would be humorous if he was not in the most powerful job on the planet. This 4 year nightmare has to end.
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Most people didn't like him the first time around....and most didn't like Hillary either. Most Americans will be voting for the "D" or the "R" behind the name of the candidate.

Be honest, isn't that how you vote? When you see two candidates for Dog Catcher or something and you don't know either one, what do you pick? Do you skip it or vote by party? I vote by party in those instances.
 
StoneByStone said:
If it was any other election, I'd agree. But when it's literally Democracy vs Fascism, I'll just vote for the lesser evil.
Bernie is doing the right thing. He knows that if Fascism wins, not having healthcare will be the least of our worries. Let's try to get Biden in there, then we can try to bring him further Left.
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:tardthoughts:

dems are the party of depopulation.

but trump is talking about that vaccine a lot.

ho hum.

you good with god?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Most people didn't like him the first time around....and most didn't like Hillary either. Most Americans will be voting for the "D" or the "R" behind the name of the candidate.

Be honest, isn't that how you vote? When you see two candidates for Dog Catcher or something and you don't know either one, what do you pick? Do you skip it or vote by party? I vote by party in those instances.
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this election is about so much more. libertarian globalist shill dumbfuck.
 
Taichiliberal said:
1. No, but "stop gaps" like this are becoming less effective....paving the road for something even worse than Dump & company down the road.

2. Oh he'll resign if his backers decide to disown him and publicly blow the whistle on him. Enough damage to the party's image coupled with a split between real conservative republicans and the fascist leaning ones will result in his removal, as his ego can't stand OFFICIAL recognition of his chicanery. I've already answered that question. Besides, being that the electoral vote pretty much nullifies my vote, your question becomes irrelevant.
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Read the Wikipedia article about the Overton Window.

Obama fixed the economy after Bush destroyed it and shifted the country to the Left. If Liberals purity spiraled back then, like they do now, we would have gotten another conservative president and nothing would have changed.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Most people didn't like him the first time around....and most didn't like Hillary either. Most Americans will be voting for the "D" or the "R" behind the name of the candidate.

Be honest, isn't that how you vote? When you see two candidates for Dog Catcher or something and you don't know either one, what do you pick? Do you skip it or vote by party? I vote by party in those instances.
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I see the fundamental difference between the parties. The Repubs work for the mega-rich and corporations. I am neither of those. How can I vote for people whose ultimate platform in a plutocracy? There have been Dems i skipped the vote for in Michigan.
 
Nordberg said:
I see the fundamental difference between the parties. The Repubs work for the mega-rich and corporations. I am neither of those. How can I vote for people whose ultimate platform in a plutocracy? There have been Dems i skipped the vote for in Michigan.
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So, who do the Democrats work for? It isn't the little guy or even Middle Class, so who are they beholden to?
 
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