John Barron
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Top 5 points of Trump health care plan
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T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
The five points of Obamacare
1. Overall policy cost goes up dramatically, not down.
2. Subsidized cost of a policy more than doubles in five years
3. Number of uninsured Americans remain about constant
4. You can't keep your doctor, even if you like your doctor.
5. You can't keep your coverage, even if you like your coverage.
1. Overall policy cost goes up dramatically, not down.
2. Subsidized cost of a policy more than doubles in five years
3. Number of uninsured Americans remain about constant
4. You can't keep your doctor, even if you like your doctor.
5. You can't keep your coverage, even if you like your coverage.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Other than being infinitely better than Trump's mythical plan, Obamacare does suck.
We need to stop screwing around and adopt a UK style NHS.
Even "medicare for all" isn't nearly good enough, but might be a good start.
We need to stop screwing around and adopt a UK style NHS.
Even "medicare for all" isn't nearly good enough, but might be a good start.
I kept my doctor. We insured 30 million more. Nobody took away company insurance, even though it is terrible.,
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Good for you. Obamacare ensured about 6 million more. The rest were people (around 12 million) that had to migrate to Obamacare from previous plans. In fact, almost all newly insured were people getting expanded Medicare not new insurance policy holders. In most states, the number of providers for Obamacare plans shrank from a dozen or more down to a few and in many cases 1 to 3. Here in Arizona it's currently two except in a few more rural counties where it's just one. Those that are now providing Obamacare plans are mostly second tier companies, sort of like say Titan or The General for car insurance.
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/blue-cross-aetna-united-humana-flee-obamacare-exchanges
https://www.atr.org/largest-insurers-fleeing-arizonas-obamacare-exchange-0
https://rightwingnews.com/democrats/nj-democrats-call-public-option-insurers-flee-obamacare/
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/are-...re-patients-or-are_b_57b39cf6e4b014a587fbb6d6
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbr...ion-nine-are-run-by-republicans/#58eaab7b2a80
https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-...medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/
https://obamacarefacts.com/obamacares-medicaid-expansion/
So, Obamacare really didn't do much other than expand Medicaid coverage, extending it to more people. Otherwise, it just forced people using individual insurance plans off their current coverage onto often crappier Obamacare plan coverage.
Another Obamacare blunder was the allowing children to stay on their parent's plans until 26. This cut the pool of eligible 18 to 34 year old healthy persons who were desperately needed in the Obamacare system buying insurance out of the pool of insured meaning that the number of high cost policies went up. Since policy costs were constant, insurers were forced to massively raise rates and losses on policies skyrocketed. Insurers fled the system to cut their losses.
HORSE SHIT. MOST AMERICANS, BY FAR, HAVE THEIR OWN, PRIVATE INSURANCE , AND THEIR NUMBERS ARE GROWING< WHILE OBAMACARE ENROLLMENT SHRINKS EVERY YEAR, AS AMERICAN FIND BETTER DEALS ELSEWHERE...
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Look, Trump has a great plan. A lot of people are saying it's the best plan, maybe ever. He just can't tell us what it is yet. But he's going to tell us real soon, he's only been waiting for about four years to let us know what the plan is.
TexanManWithPlans
Verified User
He's getting the best people on it.
Agree.
Loving91390
Verified User
My healthcare costs tripled !! I cuss Obama out every month I write that f’ing check !!!!
Exactly. I have had no issues with Obamacare whatsoever. The protection for pre-existing conditions is worth a lot.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Or become employed and no longer need a personal insurance policy when they can get an employer group one.
tRump cant release his healthcare plan. It is under audit.
It will be the BEST plan in the history of healthcare.
Simply bullshit.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Biden should really roast him with that in the next debate.
What's Biden going to do when the question of just how much quid pro quo did he get through his son comes up? Bet that gets bleeped out...
Althea
Althea told me...........
That looks about right
Althea
Althea told me...........
We never had Obamacare in this country after the second year.