Top 5 points of Trump health care plan

[Althea]

So, Obamacare really didn't do much other than expand Medicaid coverage, extending it to more people. Otherwise, it just forced people using individual insurance plans off their current coverage onto often crappier Obamacare plan coverage.
Another Obamacare blunder was the allowing children to stay on their parent's plans until 26. This cut the pool of eligible 18 to 34 year old healthy persons who were desperately needed in the Obamacare system buying insurance out of the pool of insured meaning that the number of high cost policies went up. Since policy costs were constant, insurers were forced to massively raise rates and losses on policies skyrocketed. Insurers fled the system to cut their losses.

Blame your governor if your exchange sucked. Red states refused to take part.

ACA gave everyone access to the same quality health plan that only large groups could offer previously. Coverage was much better, not worse.

For the first two years. Then House Republicans defunded the risk corridors, which was the first in a number of funding attacks that never allowed ACA to exist as designed.

My insurance was the best I ever had. Only for two years. Then Republicans put 12 non profit insurers out of business.

The Supreme Court recently awarded insurance companies hundreds of millions of dollars that they were owed under the law. Republicans had no right to defund risk corridors and cost sharing programs.

It drove premiums up, which is exactly what Republicans wanted. Biden will refund ACA, and it will be a good first start.

 

[Althea]

Look, Trump has a great plan. A lot of people are saying it's the best plan, maybe ever. He just can't tell us what it is yet. But he's going to tell us real soon, he's only been waiting for about four years to let us know what the plan is.

In all seriousness, he's basically allowing bare bones, very inexpensive policies that cover next to nothing. That's why he keeps talking about low cost insurance. It's great until you need insurance.

As for any other mention of pre existing conditions, that's just bullshit. There is no mechanism in place to fund such an issue. That's what the mandate was for.

 

[Loving91390]

Simply bullshit.

No won cares what the fuck you think !!!

 

[StoneByStone]

In all seriousness, he's basically allowing bare bones, very inexpensive policies that cover next to nothing. That's why he keeps talking about low cost insurance. It's great until you need insurance.

As for any other mention of pre existing conditions, that's just bullshit. There is no mechanism in place to fund such an issue. That's what the mandate was for.

Of course. He's a puppet for Wall Street, he wants to give the working-class as little as possible.

 

[StoneByStone]

What's Biden going to do when the question of just how much quid pro quo did he get through his son comes up? Bet that gets bleeped out...

He'll explain how that was debunked while Trump autistically screeches.

 

[Tacomaman]

No won cares what the fuck you think !!!

You obviously do...........lol
And your Obamacare rant is still fabricated bullshit.

 

[Tacomaman]

He'll explain how that was debunked while Trump autistically screeches.

He should simply ask "Corruptrump" about Ivanka's Chinese patents.

 

[Tacomaman]

Top 5 points of tRump's healthcare plan:

1. HE
2. DOES
3. NOT
4. HAVE
5. ONE!

 

[canceled.2021.3]

He doesn’t need one

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

The five points of Obamacare

1. Overall policy cost goes up dramatically, not down.
2. Subsidized cost of a policy more than doubles in five years
3. Number of uninsured Americans remain about constant
4. You can't keep your doctor, even if you like your doctor.
5. You can't keep your coverage, even if you like your coverage.

"1. Overall policy cost goes up dramatically, not down." And who in this world was naive enough to believe that health care policy prices would have remained the same after years of steep hikes?

"2. Subsidized cost of a policy more than doubles in five years" What did you expect when Republicans basically rolled over and allowed Big Insurance to write their own law?

"3. Number of uninsured Americans remain about constant" As the overall number of Americans continues to rise, thus reducing the percentage of uninsured - a win!

"4. You can't keep your doctor, even if you like your doctor, 5. You can't keep your coverage, even if you like your coverage." These were both true if you, as an individual, bought your insurance directly from an insurance company. Obamacare included a 'grandfathered in' clause which totally allowed you to keep a personal health insurance policy that you bought yourself if you liked it. And this would have extended to employer-held insurance as well. The problem was when employers took on new workers, THEY were not allowed to be added onto an existing policy. This forced employers to abandon old policies and seek new ones, which forced many Americans who got their insurance through their employer to have to accept new policies. That's the problem with having health insurance tied to employment. The workers in a capitalist economy have no representation over the decisions which affect their lives, such as health insurance.

Neither the government nor Obamacare forced anyone to accept a new health insurance policy. That was totally the decision of employers who were compelled to do that by market forces - all thanks to letting Big Insurance write their own law.

So once again we ask. What IS the Republican health care plan?

 

[StoneByStone]

He should simply ask "Corruptrump" about Ivanka's Chinese patents.

Seriously, this is something I hate about Democrats. They refuse to fight dirty even when going up against people who will do literally anything to win. If Trump is going to parrot lies about Hunter, why the fuck is Biden not talking about the real crimes being committed by Ivanka, Eric, and Don Jr?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello NiftyNiblick,

Other than being infinitely better than Trump's mythical plan, Obamacare does suck.

We need to stop screwing around and adopt a UK style NHS.

Even "medicare for all" isn't nearly good enough, but might be a good start.

Agreed, but we can't get there from here. We have to nudge it along, baby steps.

For one thing, Unions have given up a lot in negotiating for their health care plans. Dropping what they have would be seen as screwing workers. Unions would not support a change that doesn't grandfather them in.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

Look, Trump has a great plan. A lot of people are saying it's the best plan, maybe ever. He just can't tell us what it is yet. But he's going to tell us real soon, he's only been waiting for about four years to let us know what the plan is.

It's a plan that everyone is going to love.

Who knew health care would be so difficult?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Tacomaman,

It will be the BEST plan in the history of healthcare.

Never before has there been a better plan.

 

[Trumpet]

The five points of Obamacare

1. Overall policy cost goes up dramatically, not down.
2. Subsidized cost of a policy more than doubles in five years
3. Number of uninsured Americans remain about constant
4. You can't keep your doctor, even if you like your doctor.
5. You can't keep your coverage, even if you like your coverage.

If Trump can turn night into day with a health care plan, then what are the details??????????

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I kept my doctor. We insured 30 million more. Nobody took away company insurance, even though it is terrible.,

so, if employer provided insurance is terrible, why didn't you fix it.......why do we still have as many uninsured as we did when the demmycrats were stumping for "coverage for the 40 million who have no insurance"?........your 30 million were people who had insurance they paid for and now have insurance WE pay for.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

We never had Obamacare in this country after the second year.

then why were all insurance plans required to have exactly the same coverage by law.......until I went on Medicare when I hit 65 I was required to pay for maternity care for my wife and dental care for all my children under age 21...........

 

[Althea]

Of course. He's a puppet for Wall Street, he wants to give the working-class as little as possible.

Very true. His main impetus for killing ACA is the 3.8% cap gains tax on earnings over $250k/year. That helps fund the Medicaid expansion.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

My healthcare costs tripled !! I cuss Obama out every month I write that f’ing check !!!!

The fact that you "write a check" for your premiums tells us that this post is a lie. But then, so is everything else you post. Your Fuehrer must be so proud of you!

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Seriously, this is something I hate about Democrats. They refuse to fight dirty even when going up against people who will do literally anything to win. If Trump is going to parrot lies about Hunter, why the fuck is Biden not talking about the real crimes being committed by Ivanka, Eric, and Don Jr?

Good point. If you let lies and slander/libel go unremarked, to the idiots it looks like they're true and you're too afraid to address them.