Trump and Hegseth are goofy over sedition and treason

RB is not arguing the discussion at hand.

All of his replies can be summed up as 'I do not believe any illegal orders will be given... this is not nazi germany' , or some version of that.

WHat the Military Academies teach is a hypothetical. That hypothetical is 'IF AN ILLEGAL ORDER IS GIVEN, YOU MUST REFUSE TO ACT ON IT'.

RB simply will not engage that hypothetical and instead keeps switching to demand 'what order' so he can say 'no one would give that order'. His attempt it irrelevant to the hypothetical. We do not have to GUESS what an order might look like.

It could be a superior in war zone, like Afghanistan, who is negotiating with the Taliban to allow drug shipments to flow to the US (things we know HAVE happened) ordering his juniors to participate or shut up and 'not see anything'.

Again the hypothetical i give has happened but that does not matter. They hypothetical does not require a successful as it speaks to ALL future illegal orders.

But RB is stuck on stupid, a place he has never been able to find his way out of.

R B, stop being stuck on stupid.
 
R B, stop being stuck on stupid.
@RB 60 attending Military Academy would be arguing with the Instructors as to why they teach that service members cannot follow unlawful orders.

RB would demand a specific example of an order, while arguing that would never happen because we are not nazi germany'.

The instructor, trying to cut thru RB's stupidity would tell him the example does not matter. The statement is a general one. 'NO ONE CAN FOLLOW ILLEGAL ORDERS AND THINK SAYING "JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS" WILL SAVE THEM FROM PROSECUTION".

RB being stupid would go back to insisting it would not happen despite us knowing it has happened numerous times in history such as Military people getting involved in the heroin trade coming out of Afghanistan and being transported to America for sale.

And yes, if a Commander orders you to participate or turn a blind eye and you follow that illegal order, you will be prosecuted. Yes each and every service member presented with that must refuse.

Sadly RB can read what i said above but he cannot comprehend it. It is beyond the 'poorly educated' ability to do so.
 
The two belong in lock up.
You project too much. But I am amused that you side with morons who think they can incite insurrections within our CIA and military.

You're not very smart which is why you are stupid enough to vote for idiots like Biden and Kamala. The Democratic Socialist party needs willful idiots like you to get elected. ;)
 
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You project too much. But I am amused that you side with morons who think they can incite insurrections within our CIA and military.

You're not very smart which is why you are stupid enough to vote for idiots like Biden and Kamala. The Democratic Socialist party needs willful idiots like you to get elected. ;)
They did not incite anything, dumbfuck.
 
They did not incite anything, dumbfuck.
Because you say so, shit-for-brains. But when you are arguing, and not backing it up with anything, that troops should ignore orders from their commander, that is incitement.

I so not expect a brainless halfwit thread troll like you to comprehend the OBVIOUS.

When asked what illegal orders Trump has issued, not one could name one and instead, worked themselves up over troops in cities and arresting illegals. Yes, they really are THAT lame, THAT dishonest and THAT fucking stupid.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z0c1xIHFwb8
 

18 U.S. Code § 2387 - Activities affecting armed forces generally


(a)Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:

(1)advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or

(2) distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

(b) For the purposes of this section, the term “military or naval forces of the United States” includes the Army of the United States, the Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve of the United States; and, when any merchant vessel is commissioned in the Navy or is in the service of the Army or the Navy, includes the master, officers, and crew of such vessel.
 
Because you say so, shit-for-brains. But when you are arguing, and not backing it up with anything, that troops should ignore orders from their commander, that is incitement.
Quote them saying exactly that. Give me a time mark in the video.
I so not expect a brainless halfwit thread troll like you to comprehend the OBVIOUS.
You claimed that they told the troops to ignore lawful orders.
When asked what illegal orders Trump has issued, not one could name one and instead, worked themselves up over troops in cities and arresting illegals. Yes, they really are THAT lame, THAT dishonest and THAT fucking stupid.
Irrelevant. Now you understand that they did not tell them to ignore lawful orders.
What did she say that was wrong?
 
Quote them saying exactly that. Give me a time mark in the video.

Saying exactly what? You give new meaning to the term MORON.

You claimed that they told the troops to ignore lawful orders.

They inferred there were unlawful orders. You, being a brainless moron, refuse to comprehend the OBVIOUS and instead construct strawman and flail a lot while defending the indefensible.

"This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens like us. You all swore an oath to protect and defend this constitution"

Really? How has Trump "pitted" the military and intelligence community against American citizens?

Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren’t just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear,

Trump? Are they claiming Trump is the threat? Of course they are. They are dishonest, brainless Democratic morons.

Irrelevant. Now you understand that they did not tell them to ignore lawful orders.

Because you say so. But alas, you're a dishonest, thread trolling hypocrite on steroids.

What did she say that was wrong?

It wasn't about wrong; it was that she could not state what illegal orders Trump has issued. If you had a brain, I wouldn't have to educate you as we go.
 
Saying exactly what? You give new meaning to the term MORON.
Do you have amnesia? Tell me where they told the troops to disobey legal orders.
They inferred there were unlawful orders. You, being a brainless moron, refuse to comprehend the OBVIOUS and instead construct strawman and flail a lot while defending the indefensible.
All of the orders? Is that your position? And what straw man?

They merely reminded them of their duty.
"This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens like us. You all swore an oath to protect and defend this constitution"

Really? How has Trump "pitted" the military and intelligence community against American citizens?
That happened in California. A violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.
Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren’t just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear,

Trump? Are they claiming Trump is the threat? Of course they are. They are dishonest, brainless Democratic morons.
Republicans have claimed that Obama and Biden are a threat but I don't see you flailing about that. Hypocrite much?
Because you say so. But alas, you're a dishonest, thread trolling hypocrite on steroids.
No you're the dishonest one for claiming that they are saying to disobey legal orders.
It wasn't about wrong; it was that she could not state what illegal orders Trump has issued. If you had a brain, I wouldn't have to educate you as we go.
She did. Venezuela.
 
So you're saying every soldier has the ability to determine if an order is legal or illegal? How fucking ignorant are you?
War has casualties, sad as it is. But it is a fact that innocents die. Are you saying a soldier can himself determine if he shoots or not? Really?
Yes. Every soldier has that ability. What do you think, fuckwad, that they are blind robots unable to think on their own? MAGAT cultists fit that bill and the military, no doubt, has enough of those.

That war has casualties and innocents die is irrelevant to the concept of an illegal order.

Fucking knuckle dragger.
 
Do you have amnesia? Tell me where they told the troops to disobey legal orders.

All of the orders? Is that your position? And what straw man?

They merely reminded them of their duty.

That happened in California. A violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

Republicans have claimed that Obama and Biden are a threat but I don't see you flailing about that. Hypocrite much?

No you're the dishonest one for claiming that they are saying to disobey legal orders.

She did. Venezuela.
He is spinning the same lie RB does below where you see we were talking only about "illegal orders" but he replies changing what was said, as if we are talking about any and all orders including legal ones.

Your position is a soldier can at anytime he chooses defy a commanding officer's order. I disagree. That is my position.

Never.

It is something a person resorts to who knows they have lost the argument if they stick to the topic and facts and so they just lie.
 
Do you have amnesia? Tell me where they told the troops to disobey legal orders.

They inferred it you brainless moron.

All of the orders? Is that your position? And what straw man?

Says the brainless thread trolling douchebag constructing strawmen. :palm:

They merely reminded them of their duty.

Another stupid lie that only a brainless fool would believe. Yay you! :clap:

That happened in California. A violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

Wrong. But you've already been schooled on that claim and engaged with nothing more than "NUH UH!"

Republicans have claimed that Obama and Biden are a threat but I don't see you flailing about that. Hypocrite much?

It's beyond a mere threat when you call Trump Hitler and a Fascists brainless halfwit.

No you're the dishonest one for claiming that they are saying to disobey legal orders.

There you go again, making stupid shit up. I don't think you can post without lying, constructing strawmen and looking like a moron.

She did. Venezuela.

What has happened to Venezuela you brainless dumbass?
 
Yes. Every soldier has that ability. What do you think, fuckwad, that they are blind robots unable to think on their own? MAGAT cultists fit that bill and the military, no doubt, has enough of those.

That war has casualties and innocents die is irrelevant to the concept of an illegal order.

Fucking knuckle dragger.
:lolup: Clueless, brainless and stupid.



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