Trump found guilty then not guilty!

Earl said:
You lied, Pobre...no rape.
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Poor pedant Earl. He can't even get his pedantry right.
I have never once said that Trump was convicted of rape. (Civil trials don't convict anyone.) I have only said that -
Trump is a Rapist

Being a rapist has nothing to do with being convicted of rape. Being a rapist means that someone committed an act that could be considered rape under any definition of rape. As has already been ruled by a court when Trump countersued E Jean Carroll for saying she raped him, the judge ruled that under the commonly accepted definition of rape Trump committed an act that could be called rape denying Trump's ask for sanctions against Caroll for using the word rape. The appeals court also allows the use of the word rape to describe what Trump did.

By attempting to sue Carroll for saying he raped her, Trump got the judge to say Trump did rape her.
 
Diesel said:
You're not only deluded. You're also fucking stupid. Start here:

apnews.com

Donald Trump was convicted of these 34 felony counts

Former President Donald Trump has been convicted of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records alleging he was involved in a scheme that sought to cover up extramarital affairs in advance of the 2016 presidential election.
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Where have you vanished to? I see the little Libtard minions are smacking that 'like' button with the enthusiasm of trained seals. lol

What a pity you scurried away before I could dive into the tough questions ( by Libtard standards ). Come on back so we can decide who should lose their voting rights and if you deserve a one-way ticket to Libtard island. lol
 
Diesel said:
It's such a sad, sad time for the US. Half of the electorate and probably at least a third of the population literally worship as a god an inarticulate, fat, rapist liar. They have no idea what's true. They repeat what isn't true. They're cultists, yes, but they're also mean, hypocritical, evil, stupid people.
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I blame the erosion of the US education system over the past 30 years. Time to start fixing that.
 
Under no circumstance was Trump found not guilty.
He was found guilty but not subject to punishment due to the insanity of our laws and SCOTUS decisions.
A largely demented electorate elected Trump POTUS with full knowledge of Trump's personal perversity.

Saying that he was found not guilty is either stupidity, insanity, or both.
As for America, it's a magnificent tract of real estate populated by some of the most stupid people to have ever lived.
 
Earl said:
Was Juanita Broaddrick lying when she said Clinton raped her?

Hm...
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No. Thanks for admitting Trump, like Bill, is a rapist. Did you rape any women, Earl? :thup:

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Tobytone said:
That's play a little game I call: 'Expose the Libard'. Don't worry I'll keep it real simple. However, it will prove that you are the drone in this story that not only should your voting rights be canceled but you should have to move to a Libtard island for the rest of your life. lol

First really simple question. what were the 34 felony charges in Trump's case? (I told you it would be easy, you can do this one) don't run off, you claimed I'm deluded and shouldn't be able to vote, so let's see if that's true.
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Poor Tobytone, thinks he is smart but he really isn't.
Here is the verdict sheet for the felonies that Trump committed.
All 34 felonies were for falsifying business records.
 
Tobytone said:
Ahhh, of course, the only Libtard move. copy/paste other libtard stories. I was kind of going for you to answer with your very own brain (mommy's help is ok too) but I should have known that isn't possible.

Ok, I guess I'll have to allow it, because you don't have your own thoughts, silly me.
Second challenge: In order to proceed with the charges, Bragg extended the statute of limitations. Provide other felony cases for "Falsifying Business Records" or any charges, that Bragg brought into court with an extended statute of limitations. ( A little harder, but I got faith in your libtard brain) Don't worry I do have a difficult one coming up.
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And here we go. You start to make yourself look stupid. Bragg did not extend the statute of limitations. Bragg charged the crimes as felonies. Bragg did not extend the statute of limitations for felonies. The indictment was within the time frame of the statute of limitations as set by the NY legislature. Your premise is false so your question becomes a logical fallacy.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Poor Tobytone, thinks he is smart but he really isn't.
Here is the verdict sheet for the felonies that Trump committed.
All 34 felonies were for falsifying business records.
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Typical drone response, I noticed libtards can't answer the question, and as I stated, it is an easy one, or should be. I need to guide the ultra slow Libtard logic through this step by step. You can use left wing articles or help from you parents, whatever a libtard needs. But, you need to stay focused. I will guide you to the truth if you can follow simple instructions.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
And here we go. You start to make yourself look stupid. Bragg did not extend the statute of limitations. Bragg charged the crimes as felonies. Bragg did not extend the statute of limitations for felonies. The indictment was within the time frame of the statute of limitations as set by the NY legislature. Your premise is false so your question becomes a logical fallacy.
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Ah, you've touched on the next question. What crime was added to the charges to elevate them to felonies? it's still pretty easy. Keep focusing, we'll get there.
 
Tobytone said:
Typical drone response, I noticed libtards can't answer the question, and as I stated, it is an easy one, or should be. I need to guide the ultra slow Libtard logic through this step by step. You can use left wing articles or help from you parents, whatever a libtard needs. But, you need to stay focused. I will guide you to the truth if you can follow simple instructions.
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Hmmm.. Here is your question....
Tobytone said:
First really simple question. what were the 34 felony charges in Trump's case?
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Here is my reply
Poor Richard Saunders said:
All 34 felonies were for falsifying business records.
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Since you think the felonies were not for falsifying business records, perhaps you can tell us what you think they were.


I didn't use any articles from the media. I provided a link to the actual court document that lists the felonies and the jury verdict for each one. Are you incapable of understanding the difference between a court document and an article in the media? You couldn't guide yourself out of a wet paper bag at this point.
 
Tobytone said:
Ah, you've touched on the next question. What crime was added to the charges to elevate them to felonies? it's still pretty easy. Keep focusing, we'll get there.
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And here we go. No crime needed to be "added to the charges" to elevate them to a felony. You keep digging yourself a deeper hole in your wet paper bag. Can you cite the law that requires a crime be added to the charges to elevate them to a felony? No such law exists.


NY law makes falsification of business records a felony if the crime was committed with intent to commit or conceal another crime. This other crime is not "added to the charges." The evidence of the intent to commit or conceal this other crime must be presented at trial just like any other evidence. In this case, there were originally 4 other crimes that elevated the falsification to a felony. In motions prior to the trial, one of those was denied by the court to be allowed as evidence. The other 3 possible crimes were allowed as evidence. As with any evidence in a trial, each juror does not have to agree on all the evidence. They only have to decide that the evidence they do find to be true is convincing beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
archives said:
No, he is guilty, a convicted felon

Under normal circumstances he would have been penalized, however, given he would take office in a week in half, why bother, given he owns the SCOTUS the Judge decided it wasn’t worth the City’s time or expense to enforce any penalty

Welcome to MAGA America, where if your name is Trump, you can get away with anything
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Blame Juan Merchan for the non-sentence sentence.
He’s the antithesis of MAGA.
It wasn’t the right leaning SC.
So apparently HE’S the one who considers Trump to be above the law.
Personally I wanted to see the spectacle of Trump in handcuffs being led to Rikers, along with secret service detail and office space.
I wanted to see foreign dignitaries entering Rikers for summits.
I wanted to see violent criminals get early release too make room for all the hoopla since most of them are black and there’s too many blacks incarcerated.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
And here we go. No crime needed to be "added to the charges" to elevate them to a felony. You keep digging yourself a deeper hole in your wet paper bag. Can you cite the law that requires a crime be added to the charges to elevate them to a felony? No such law exists.


NY law makes falsification of business records a felony if the crime was committed with intent to commit or conceal another crime. This other crime is not "added to the charges." The evidence of the intent to commit or conceal this other crime must be presented at trial just like any other evidence. In this case, there were originally 4 other crimes that elevated the falsification to a felony. In motions prior to the trial, one of those was denied by the court to be allowed as evidence. The other 3 possible crimes were allowed as evidence. As with any evidence in a trial, each juror does not have to agree on all the evidence. They only have to decide that the evidence they do find to be true is convincing beyond a reasonable doubt.
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The requests for transcripts to show that the evidence needed to elevate the charges to felonies was not adjudicated have been ignored. Of course, the delays might be lengthy because it's 'so difficult' , to provide transcripts in a timely manner, it's akin to solving quantum physics. lol. But they can't drag this out indefinitely, and the truth will eventually surface. Bragg really stretched the statute of limitations by tacking on these laughable claims, something he's never done before, and certainly never charged anyone with anything remotely similar without the defendant pocketing some cash or gifts. There's this one case with campaign finance laws, but oh, that was about receiving donations, not shelling out legal fees for an NDA, which is practically standard practice in politics, even funded by congressional slush funds for similar purposes. To me, and to anyone with a grip on reality, this reeks of lawfare. Maybe you can provide the evidence that is so far is only suggested by the 'impartial' jury's decision. We all know there's no way a NYC jury had any axe to grind in regards to Trump. We'll forget the fact that Braggs predecessor, Cy Vance Jr. refused to bring charges because there was no there there. And Mark Pomerantz didn't want to pursue charges because the case was so weak, he resigned. lol Wake up drone and join the rest of us in REAL WORLD.
 
Tobytone said:
The requests for transcripts to show that the evidence needed to elevate the charges to felonies was not adjudicated have been ignored. Of course, the delays might be lengthy because it's 'so difficult' , to provide transcripts in a timely manner, it's akin to solving quantum physics. lol.
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What are you even talking about? Transcripts of what? The transcripts of the trial were released within a day for each day of the trial. That is very abnormal for court transcripts to be released that quickly.

Tobytone said:
But they can't drag this out indefinitely, and the truth will eventually surface. Bragg really stretched the statute of limitations by tacking on these laughable claims, something he's never done before, and certainly never charged anyone with anything remotely similar without the defendant pocketing some cash or gifts.
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The statute of limitations is the statute of limitations. It can't be stretched. Your argument doesn't make any sense legally. And this is about a legal proceeding so your argument has to make legal sense. Did Trump get a benefit by hiding the payment? The answer would be yes. The benefit doesn't have to be cash to be a benefit.

Tobytone said:
There's this one case with campaign finance laws, but oh, that was about receiving donations, not shelling out legal fees for an NDA, which is practically standard practice in politics, even funded by congressional slush funds for similar purposes. To me, and to anyone with a grip on reality, this reeks of lawfare.
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There is no such thing as lawfare in the legal world. It is a made up term that has no legal meaning. Anyone that uses the phrase "lawfare" does NOT have a grip on reality. The payments were not legal fees for an NDA. They were reimbursements for payments to Stormy Daniels that were falsely claimed to be legal fees.
Tobytone said:
Maybe you can provide the evidence that is so far is only suggested by the 'impartial' jury's decision. We all know there's no way a NYC jury had any axe to grind in regards to Trump. We'll forget the fact that Braggs predecessor, Cy Vance Jr. refused to bring charges because there was no there there. And Mark Pomerantz didn't want to pursue charges because the case was so weak, he resigned. lol Wake up drone and join the rest of us in REAL WORLD.
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OMFG. The evidence is right there on the court's website.
Click the first link that says "evidence" then confirm you are a human and then you will have access to the prosecution and defense exhibits.

At this point you are only proving you know absolutely nothing about the facts of the case since you are claiming you can't see things that are publicly available for everyone to see.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Poor Tobytone, thinks he is smart but he really isn't.
Here is the verdict sheet for the felonies that Trump committed.
All 34 felonies were for falsifying business records.
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This latest influx of MAGAT socks is really formulaic and boring, aren't they? And they're so juvenile, too. I wish they would put more effort into recruiting actual intelligent, worthy opponents. It's sad to be insulted by such low level trollish morons. "You're a big fat poopyhead trans lesbian commie!" *yawn* lol
 
Kurmugeon said:
What this says to me, is that the Lefties were never interested in "Justice", they just wanted a Propaganda Story.
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Correct. Notice how many posters on JPP simply focus on how Trump is a convicted felon, without caveating the totally illegal activity that went into making that happen. Notice how leftists did the same thing the moment Trump was impeached by the same political scofflaws who were desperate for a political narrative to drive up Trump's negatives.

The left is cornering the market on dishonesty.

Kurmugeon said:
I will not forget the Lawfare, and I will never vote for another Democrat or any Leftie.
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You will be limiting yourself to honest alternatives. Jussayn.

Kurmugeon said:
Next week, I will reserve time in my busy schedule, to get to the local county clerk, to change my voter registration from "Democrat" to "Independent".
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... or ... you could change it to "Druid" or "Whig." Jussayn.

Kurmugeon said:
In 2026, and 2028, I will reserve at least $100 to donate to someone who is running against the Left.
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I recommend you instead volunteer to help the campaign that is running against the left, and spend the $100 on your family.

Kurmugeon said:
I am not a Mega-Donor, but there are Millions of people like me. Combined, we are far, far larger than any Mega- Donor.
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I recommend you view yourself and the millions of others as being far, far larger than any Mega-Voter. Kamala showed us that money isn't the driver.

Kurmugeon said:
I will never forgive the Lawfare.
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You are a good man. Don't forget the stolen election either.
 
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