Trump got $413,000,000.00 from daddy

Oneuli said:
The NYT is probably the best journalistic outlet in existence. That's not to say they're perfect, but they have solid fact-checkers, a serious ombudsman function, and a willingness to print prominent retractions when they get something wrong. There's a reason they have far and away the most Pulitzer Prizes of any newspaper, and have their pick of top investigative reporters and editorial writers. They're the gold standard of journalism in this country, and arguably the world.
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The NYT is probably the best journalistic outlet in existence. SQUAWK!

The NYT is probably the best journalistic outlet in existence. SQUAWK!

The NYT is probably the best journalistic outlet in existence. SQUAWK!

The NYT is probably the best journalistic outlet in existence. SQUAWK!

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Frank Apisa said:
Donald Trump is almost certainly as dirty as his most vocal critics suppose him to be.

I suspect the revelations to come during the next couple of years will reveal just how filthy he is...

...and will have to listen to the absurd rationalizations and "explanations" of his delusional sycophants.

Could actually be fun, though.
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Oneuli said:
It's not just me who thinks so. Check out where the Pulitzer Prizes go.
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Check out where the Pulitzer Prizes go. SQUAWK!!

Check out where the Pulitzer Prizes go. SQUAWK!!

Check out where the Pulitzer Prizes go. SQUAWK!!

Check out where the Pulitzer Prizes go. SQUAWK!!
 
Micawber said:
Of course, and they certainly didn't make up the fact that state taxing authorities have them under investigation. That's knowable.
Prove that claim wrong. My understanding is they have hundreds of corporate tax returns now to run through covering decades
of the Trump shells accounting practices. You know they probably use the most aggressive possible and fight any allegations to the hilt
as opposed to safe practices and compliance to avoid the radar. Two different philosophies, but if you are nouveau riche and a social climber
you run an aggressive growth "portfolio" don't you. That means tax fraud and hidden mad stacks of cash, stiffing honest venders, faking expense reports....
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:lolup:Moron thinks leftists dredging up an issue from 1990 is evidence of fraud. :rofl2:
 
Guille said:
So what?
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So, the quality of a newspaper is ultimately subjective, but if there's any objective measure it would have to be which newspapers are most widely recognized by people in the field of journalism for the excellence of their work. In that way, the NYT stands in a category of its own. You can also see the NYT's quality by the way journalists and opinion writers tend to graduate up to it from lesser papers when they excel. It's an aspirational career destination because of the sense within the field of journalism of its preeminent position. Other metrics, such as how often a paper is cited by other papers, also support the notion of the NYT's singular greatness. You can also see it in metrics of reading level and educational demographics of readership... the NYT is where the highly educated go to get their news, at least when it comes to general coverage (there are specialty financial papers like Bloomberg with even more elite demographics).
 
Oneuli said:
So, the quality of a newspaper is ultimately subjective, but if there's any objective measure it would have to be which newspapers are most widely recognized by people in the field of journalism for the excellence of their work. In that way, the NYT stands in a category of its own. You can also see the NYT's quality by the way journalists and opinion writers tend to graduate up to it from lesser papers when they excel. It's an aspirational career destination because of the sense within the field of journalism of its preeminent position. Other metrics, such as how often a paper is cited by other papers, also support the notion of the NYT's singular greatness. You can also see it in metrics of reading level and educational demographics of readership... the NYT is where the highly educated go to get their news, at least when it comes to general coverage (there are specialty financial papers like Bloomberg with even more elite demographics).
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Publishing anonymous Op-Eds is what hacks do. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. The NYT did that. Deal with it.
 
Micawber said:
Bastion of liberalism. Untrustworthy too.
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First, the NYT isn't terribly liberal. It has both conservative and liberal opinion writers, and its overall direction tends toward conservatism on economic and military/foreign-policy issues, even as it tends towards liberalism on social issues. As for trustworthiness, it's as close to trustworthy as I've found among all the outlets I've read. They may screw up occasionally, but generally they do prominent corrections when that happens.
 
Oneuli said:
First, the NYT isn't terribly liberal. It has both conservative and liberal opinion writers, and its overall direction tends toward conservatism on economic and military/foreign-policy issues, even as it tends towards liberalism on social issues. As for trustworthiness, it's as close to trustworthy as I've found among all the outlets I've read. They may screw up occasionally, but generally they do prominent corrections when that happens.
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And this is why I think you're a fucking idiot.It trends toward conservatism on economic and military/foreign policy issues?

Do you even know what you just?

I'll ask you the same question I asked TD last night. Simple question but he couldn't answer it. What is conservative?
 
Guille said:
And this is why I think you're a fucking idiot.It trends toward conservatism on economic and military/foreign policy issues?

Do you even know what you just?
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I don't even know what that sentence is asking.

I'll ask you the same question I asked TD last night. Simple question but he couldn't answer it. What is conservative?
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In this country, conservatism is used as a term to describe the positions of those on the right of the political spectrum. When it comes to economic matters, that usually means suspicion of government expansion, advocacy for reining in deficit spending (at least when a Democrat is president), support for lower tax rates, especially on unearned income and corporate income, and hostility to regulation. When it comes to military issues, it means advocacy for a vast military budget and a willingness to use it in "preventative" aggression, such as the invasion of Iraq. In foreign policy, it means advocating an aggressive role for the US in pushing its perceived interests abroad, through support of pro-US factions (or anti-communist/anti-islamist, etc.) In the Middle East, in particular, it tends to take the form of aligning US policy with whatever Likud would like to see.

There are others who have more eccentric definitions of conservatism (e.g., basically defining it as whatever they happen to believe in). But what I described sums up the traditional liberal/conservative breakdown in the US, over the last seventy or eighty years.
 
Thing1 said:
Is that a yes or no?

I don't recall any of them trying to argue that they were self-made men. Got any quotes there, Stretchy?
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I also don't recall any of them saying that dad started them all off with bucks for schooling or political careers.
Trump's dad started him off in business.
No big difference. Not even knocking the Kennedy kids for their wealthy upbringing. Not knocking Trump for it either.
Close-knit wealthy families are able to do that.
 
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