Not if Iran continues to control the Straits with Trump’s latest switch, China will continue to receive their oil
“Trump tells aides he is willing to end Iran war without reopening Hormuz”
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Ichabod Stain
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so what's the problem?
Iran has all the best cards. They control the Strait and are being selective on who is allowed through. If Trump carries out his plans for war crimes, the Iranians will go apeshit. They are smart enough to be holding back enough munitions in reserve to keep this going for months.
All they need to do is attack a ship every once in awhile to cause the insurance companies to panic.
At the offset Trump said two or three weeks, and now we’re into the second month and you’re predicting longer? And what was the “heavy lifting?” Iran certainly knew that they would be bombed back into the Stone Age, that their Air Force/Navy wouldn’t last long, yet they continue to produce and send cheap drones into neighboring nations and controlling the Straits
It is to the Iranians, as I said above, they knew what they had to do to win in their view
Initially, you MAGA told us Trump’s “goals” were to save the protesters, eliminate the regime, remove nuclear potential, and stop Iran attacking their neighbors, how many of those “goals” have been achieved?
There is no clear strategy, the fact the Iranians control the Straits show Trump didn’t know what he was doing from the beginning, he thought it would another Venezuela. And the unpredictability isn’t a strategy, you don’t go to war, put American soldiers in harms way playing it by ear
At the offset Trump said two or three weeks, and now we’re into the second month and you’re predicting longer? And what was the “heavy lifting?” Iran certainly knew that they would be bombed back into the Stone Age, that their Air Force/Navy wouldn’t last long, yet they continue to produce and send cheap drones into neighboring nations and controlling the Straits
It is to the Iranians, as I said above, they knew what they had to do to win in their view
Initially, you MAGA told us Trump’s “goals” were to save the protesters, eliminate the regime, remove nuclear potential, and stop Iran attacking their neighbors, how many of those “goals” have been achieved?
There is no clear strategy, the fact the Iranians control the Straits show Trump didn’t know what he was doing from the beginning, he thought it would another Venezuela. And the unpredictability isn’t a strategy, you don’t go to war, put American soldiers in harms way playing it by ear
Ichabod Stain
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no oil is getting through.
If they are open why is Trump now saying he’s willing to end the war without controlling the Straits?
Ichabod Stain
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trump is cutting and running.
this is the correct time table.
Ichabod Stain
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gfm7175
Jesus is LORD!
That's all it took to effectively wipe out the Ayatollah's regime, but Trump never said that the operation as a whole would be over in two or three weeks.
It's been about one month atm.
It might take another month to finish up, yes. It might take less than that.
Crippling their missile launching capabilities, effectively wiping out their air force and navy, bombing underground bunkers, etc.
Iran does not control the Strait.
Iran (meaning the Ayatollah's regime) has already lost.
That has never been a goal. That's only ever been a "two birds, one stone" sort of deal. Many tens of thousands of protesters have died (at the hand of the Ayatollah's regime), btw.
That goal has been accomplished.
That goal has been accomplished.
The Ayatollah's regime can't do this too well anymore (save for some remaining missiles and some drones).
Pretty much all of them. That's why the military operation is coming to a close within the coming month.
They don't.
Venezuela was a completely different operation than Iran (with completely different goals).
Yes, it is.
Agreed, but the MAGA morons won't see it. Trump will tell them it's all Biden's fault and the morons will believe him.
gfm7175
Jesus is LORD!
He's telling the EU to put on their big girl panties instead of expecting the USA to do everything FOR them. He's telling the EU to take care of their own oil issues.
“Trump tells aides he is willing to end Iran war without reopening Hormuz, WSJ reports”
“US President Donald Trump told aides he is willing to end the military campaign against Iran even if the Strait of Hormuz remains largely closed and leave a complex operation to reopen it for a later date, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing administration officials.”
“The report mentions that Trump's first option remains to open the Strait by negotiating an ending of the war with the Iranian regime, while a second option would be to demand that its allies, especially the Gulf States and NATO, lead the operations to reopen the Strait.”
Donald Trump tells aides he is willing to end Iran war without reopening Hormuz | The Jerusalem Post
Other military options are being considered by the US President, WSJ noted, citing the officials, but they are not currently his immediate priority.www.jpost.com
Trump must be getting nervous about the Market again, now he’s got to predict a short war to ease tensions
If victory for Iran is to survive the onslaught regardless the cost, obvious they knew they’d be bombed back to the Stone Age and lose their navy/Air Force, and still maintain the ability to directly affect the world economy, who wins the war if Iran achieved their objective?
This war gets more bewildering by the day if not hour. Americans used to go to war with an idea of what they were fighting for, but now, those designs seem to change daily, and then change again.
They don't have to bet, all the evidence points to someone getting advance tips.
Iran is letting their ships through. For a small fee, of course.
$2 million. And they prefer payment in Yuan.
Are tolls piracy?