“Trump tells aides he is willing to end Iran war without reopening Hormuz”

He's telling the EU to put on their big girl panties instead of expecting the USA to do everything FOR them. He's telling the EU to take care of their own oil issues.
So Trump is conceding to Iran, giving up on forcing Iran to surrender control, and the EU didn’t attack Iran, why would Iran penalize the EU

Besides, the Straits monitors oil exported from other ME nations and American oil companies are heavily involved in the area
 

“Trump tells aides he is willing to end Iran war without reopening Hormuz, WSJ reports”​

US President Donald Trump told aides he is willing to end the military campaign against Iran even if the Strait of Hormuz remains largely closed and leave a complex operation to reopen it for a later date, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing administration officials.”

“The report mentions that Trump's first option remains to open the Strait by negotiating an ending of the war with the Iranian regime, while a second option would be to demand that its allies, especially the Gulf States and NATO, lead the operations to reopen the Strait.”


Trump must be getting nervous about the Market again, now he’s got to predict a short war to ease tensions

If victory for Iran is to survive the onslaught regardless the cost, obvious they knew they’d be bombed back to the Stone Age and lose their navy/Air Force, and still maintain the ability to directly affect the world economy, who wins the war if Iran achieved their objective?

This war gets more bewildering by the day if not hour. Americans used to go to war with an idea of what they were fighting for, but now, those designs seem to change daily, and then change again.
The US doesn't need it; Europe does.

Let the whiny bitches of NATO handle their own business.
 
The US doesn't need it; Europe does.

Let the whiny bitches of NATO handle their own business.
Another MAGA who thinks it’s the 19th Century, I guess American gas prices aren’t rising because of what’s happening in rhe ME

Iran doesn’t have a beef with the EU, and it isn’t only Iranian oil that passes thru the Straits, not to mention American oil companies are heavily involved invested in the area
 
So Trump is conceding to Iran, giving up on forcing Iran to surrender control, and the EU didn’t attack Iran, why would Iran penalize the EU

Besides, the Straits monitors oil exported from other ME nations and American oil companies are heavily involved in the area
TACO doesn't just run from paper wars. As Donnie Bonespurs has proved in the past, he's "a lover, not a fighter"....even if they are sex slaves.

Para la Cuaresma, he renunciado a debatir con sectarios, independientemente de su orientación política.
 

Quote of the Day by Blaise Pascal: “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.​



Synopsis
French thinker Blaise Pascal observed humanity's aversion to stillness, suggesting our constant busyness stems from a fear of confronting ourselves. This insight resonates today, as digital distractions prevent introspection, leading to impulsive decisions and external validation. Cultivating stillness, Pascal argued, is crucial for self-knowledge and genuine engagement with the world, fostering inner peace before outer stability.
Unrelated quotes that aren't applicable to the conversation don't make you look intelligent.

They make you look confused.
 
They weren't a nuclear threat and it is very unlikely that they'd have fired missiles directly at the US when their proxies terrorists were doing it.

There is no reason to start this war although I'd readily agree the US should have still been working the covert ops angle and supporting our allies in the region to box-in the Iranians. The United States taught them a harsh lessen in 1987. They may be the Islamic version of Evangelical nutjobs, but they aren't stupid nor impatient. They are patient unlike US politicians running for reelection.
What we should have done was let the JCPOA do it's job. I realize that on the surface it was all about uranium enrichment but what it really was was a starting point. A beginning of a new kind of cooperative agreement with Iran, and an open door to more. Proof that we could work together.

But no, tRump had to fuck it up because it had Obama's name on it....
 
So Trump is conceding to Iran, giving up on forcing Iran to surrender control, and the EU didn’t attack Iran, why would Iran penalize the EU

Besides, the Straits monitors oil exported from other ME nations and American oil companies are heavily involved in the area
Hardly. He he's crushed Iran; he just sees no need for the US to expend treasure to open the straight, which we do not need....Europe needs it.

The cowards of NATO/Europe can handle their own business, for a change.
 
Theres this leftist fantasy that Iran will control the straits of hormuz because they can drone ships passing thru it.

Have you ever considered the implications of this?

If Iran charges for crossing Hormuz half of which is in Oman then whats preventing Afghanistan and Pakistan for charging? They are in drone range as well. How about Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, and KSA? They are all in drone range too. Israel is in aircraft range and can destroy any ships that pass. Why cant they charge too?
 
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