Trump's 757 Grounded - Needs Expensive Repairs

[Dutch Uncle]

You support the Democrats. You support The Oligarchy.

Bullshit, but you are free to try and prove it, Sybil. Frankly, I think most people see you post dozens of ranting posts with little to no rationality in them because you have your little "issues".

Go for it. I'd love to see your evidence that I'm less than a staunch supporter of the Constitution of the United States.

 

[Into the Night]

Bullshit,

Ignoring your own posts isn't going to cut it, sock.

but you are free to try and prove it, Sybil.

No need. Anyone can go look for themselves.

Frankly, I think most people see you post dozens of ranting posts with little to no rationality in them because you have your little "issues".

Inversion fallacy.

Go for it. I'd love to see your evidence that I'm less than a staunch supporter of the Constitution of the United States.

Already demonstrated that you aren't. Anyone that wants to can go see for themselves. It doesn't matter if you try to deny your own posts.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Ignoring your own posts isn't going to cut it, sock.

No need. Anyone can go look for themselves.

Inversion fallacy.

Already demonstrated that you aren't. Anyone that wants to can go see for themselves. It doesn't matter if you try to deny your own posts.

I knew you couldn't do it, Sybil. I've had you pegged for months; you're above average in intelligence but you are mentally ill; delusional. Probably schizophrenic.

 

[Walt]

If you can find one for $6 million, buy it! You can make a quick turnaround for $20 million and a nice tidy profit of $14 million!

It is tough to buy a low end plane and turn it into a high end plane. It costs millions, and even then is not always possible. You cannot erase the history. I would have a better chance of buying at $6 million, putting $3 million in, and selling at $10 million for a $1 million profit.

But that is not my field, and those deals can always go wrong. I knew a lot of house flippers who were doing great, until they were not doing great.

 

[Into the Night]

I knew you couldn't do it, Sybil. I've had you pegged for months; you're above average in intelligence but you are mentally ill; delusional. Probably schizophrenic.

Psycoquackery. Assumption of victory fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

It is tough to buy a low end plane and turn it into a high end plane. It costs millions, and even then is not always possible.

Depends on the plane.

You cannot erase the history.

What history? Void argument fallacy.

I would have a better chance of buying at $6 million, putting $3 million in, and selling at $10 million for a $1 million profit.

The current price of a used 757 is around $20 million. You are attempting to prove your own contrivance as 'history'.

But that is not my field,

Obviously.

and those deals can always go wrong.

What deals? Void argument fallacy.

I knew a lot of house flippers who were doing great, until they were not doing great.

You are using your own contrivance as history. A contrivance is not a historical predicate, dude.

Pivot fallacy.

 

[Walt]

What history? Void argument fallacy.

Planes do not have odometers, but they might as well have them. They have well documented histories. No amount of money will take the flight hours off a plane, or the years of life off a plane. Basically, if you buy a bottom of the price scale plane, you can improve its value, but cannot make it a top of the price scale plane.

What deals?

We were talking about flipping planes, remember? You seemed to think it was easy, while I am saying that it is difficult, and can go wrong. You can easily find that a plane needs a lot more work than you thought. Also prices are not guaranteed.

In theory, you can buy a 757 at $6 million, put $3 million into it, and sell it for $10 million for a $1 million profit. But also you can buy a 757 at $6 million, put $6 million into it, and not be able to sell it at all.

What you really cannot do is take a bottom of the range plane and turn it into a top of the range plane. You cannot figuratively reset the odometer.

You are using your own contrivance as history. A contrivance is not a historical predicate, dude.

You think house flipping collapsing during the Great Recession is a "contrivance"? Really? You are really that disconnected from reality?

OK, let's start over from basics. You understand that there are people who buy things, and then, later, sell them for a profit? Many times they make money, but some times it goes wrong. Is any of this sounding familiar to you?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Psycoquackery. Assumption of victory fallacy.

You're so funny, Sybil. What's funnier is that you never intend to be funny.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Trumpet,

Trump will have to scam his feeble minded followers a bit harder in order to get the money to repair his 757.

And then even more just to fly it.

And all that on top of how much he needs to scam them to fight all of his ever-mounting legal problems.

 

[Into the Night]

Planes do not have odometers, but they might as well have them.

The rather do. They have hour meters.

They have well documented histories.

Certainly a lot better documented than your average car!

No amount of money will take the flight hours off a plane, or the years of life off a plane.

The number of hours on an airframe do not signifcantly affect the airframe. The number of hours on an engine ARE reset to zero when the engine is replaced or overhauled. The same is true for the number of hours on any appliance on the airplane.

Basically, if you buy a bottom of the price scale plane, you can improve its value, but cannot make it a top of the price scale plane.

Yes you can.

We were talking about flipping planes, remember?

No, YOU are talking about flipping planes. There is no WE.

...deleted contrivance...
What you really cannot do is take a bottom of the range plane and turn it into a top of the range plane. You cannot figuratively reset the odometer.

Yes you can.

You think house flipping collapsing during the Great Recession is a "contrivance"? Really? You are really that disconnected from reality?

No, your contrivance is a contrivance. Don't play dumb with context with me.

OK, let's start over from basics. You understand that there are people who buy things, and then, later, sell them for a profit? Many times they make money, but some times it goes wrong. Is any of this sounding familiar to you?

Pivot fallacy.

Fixation. Use of contrivance as history. False equivocation. Contextomy fallacies. Attempt to derail thread. Trolling.

 

[Walt]

Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy.

And trump has never owned a plane personally.

 

[Into the Night]

And trump has never owned a plane personally.

Yes he does. He owns quite a few, including the 757....and you can't stand that, can you? Jealousy.

 

[Walt]

Yes he does. He owns quite a few, including the 757....and you can't stand that, can you? Jealousy.

Actually, technically, trump has not personally owned a plane in his life. The key word there is "personally". Your point was that he has not declared personal bankruptcy, but instead used corporations to hold his debts at arms length. he has also used corporations to hold his planes at arms length. his previous main plane he did not even own most of the corporation, so was taking from other shareholders. That was especially bad when he went bankrupt.

The current 757 belongs to a corporation named djt, which I believe he is sole owner of. If it goes bankrupt, you will once again say he did not have a personal bankruptcy.

 

[PoliTalker]

Trump is adept at the art of insulation through corporation.

That's why it is taking investigators so long to come up with charges that will stick.

We need to either get Trump or change the corporation laws.

Or Both!

Obviously it is not right for people to be able to defraud others and skip out of taxes by fancy book juggling.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Trump is adept at the art of insulation through corporation.

That's why it is taking investigators so long to come up with charges that will stick.

We need to either get Trump or change the corporation laws.

Or Both!

Obviously it is not right for people to be able to defraud others and skip out of taxes by fancy book juggling.

Allowing Washington to get this corrupt was always not just a bad idea, but a disaster one could see coming from 1000 miles away. Almost everybody cooks the books to pay as little tax as possible now. Trump is doing nothing that is uncommon or not allowed. TRump runs very clean, which we know because even as the Swamp is out to get him, and has the resources of the government to do so, they still cant find anything to hang him with.

 

[Drummie123]

Trump's personal Boeing 757 is sitting broken and unused at a New York airport, photos show

"Former President Donald Trump's personal Boeing 757 has been sitting at New York's Stewart International airport, in need of repair and unused since President Joe Biden's Inauguration, according to recent reports.

CNN initially reported that the plane, which seats 43 and is outfitted with 24-karat gold accessories, has a broken engine which could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to fix.

It is the only plane visibly stored in a section of the airfield where there were also no incoming or outbound flights.

The Boeing 757 uses pricey Rolls Royce RB211 Turbofan engines. One of them on Trump's plane is reportedly broken and has been removed, with the exterior wrapped in white, according to CNN.

The plane used to belong to Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, and Trump purchased it in 2011.

The former President decked the plane out with all sorts of expensive touches, like a 24-karat gold sink and gold-plated seat belt buckles. The plane also has a shower and TV screens galore. "

And scumbags note the plane's condition as a terrorist might have perceived the recent Biden-enabled Afghanistan suicide attack which killed 13 US servicemembers.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And scumbags note the plane's condition as a terrorist might have perceived the recent Biden-enabled Afghanistan suicide attack which killed 13 US servicemembers.

Are you morning drunk or still last-night drunk? WTF are you babbling about?

 

[Into the Night]

Actually, technically, trump has not personally owned a plane in his life. The key word there is "personally".

I mean personally.

Your point was that he has not declared personal bankruptcy, but instead used corporations to hold his debts at arms length. he has also used corporations to hold his planes at arms length. his previous main plane he did not even own most of the corporation, so was taking from other shareholders.

He never took from other shareholders any book value.

That was especially bad when he went bankrupt.

Trump has never filed personal bankruptcy.

The current 757 belongs to a corporation named djt, which I believe he is sole owner of. If it goes bankrupt, you will once again say he did not have a personal bankruptcy.

DJT operations is Donald J Trump as the sole officer, dumbass. He personally owns the plane and all other assets of DJT. He personally assumes all liabilities of DJT.
You have a LOT to learn about personal corporations.

 

[Into the Night]

Trump is adept at the art of insulation through corporation.

That's why it is taking investigators so long to come up with charges that will stick.

We need to either get Trump or change the corporation laws.

Or Both!

Obviously it is not right for people to be able to defraud others and skip out of taxes by fancy book juggling.

You don't get to apply any law ex post facto.

 

[Into the Night]

Allowing Washington to get this corrupt was always not just a bad idea, but a disaster one could see coming from 1000 miles away. Almost everybody cooks the books to pay as little tax as possible now. Trump is doing nothing that is uncommon or not allowed. TRump runs very clean, which we know because even as the Swamp is out to get him, and has the resources of the government to do so, they still cant find anything to hang him with.

Cooking the books is a great way to land you in jail.