Trump's personality

Double Tap said:
They seem like serious relevant questions to me. Of course you aren't really interested in a serious, substantive discussion. You are only interested in trying to tear down Trump and justify your reasons for hating him.

Let me help you out. The real reason you hate Trump is because you are mad at how wrong you got the election. You never once for one single second seriously contemplated that Trump could win. You were 1000% sure that Hillary would be victorious. You are so self assured of your own moral superiority and intelligence that you think that ALL intelligent people think like you. Because why would you be wrong? Right?

Deep down you are really mad at yourself
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Here's what Thing looked like, the day after the election.

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NOVA said:
The only thing you know about Trump's personality is what the left wing media and other Trump haters tell you....literally, nothing.
You've formed opinions from them and them only.....in plain language, you're clueless when it comes to what who he actually is...
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I have formulated my opinion of him over the last 30 years from listening to him speak, from the numerous articles I have read about his businesses and his business practices. It is the job of the media and I don't mean cable news, to inform us and there are some great journalists who do just that, and they aren't on Fox or MSNBC.
 
Thing1 said:
I appreciate the thoughtful response. This is actually what I was looking for in starting the thread. At the very least, it's fairly well-reasoned, and I understand some of it to an extent.

I just think there are levels of acceptability for each side. I had no problem at all w/ Bush Sr., though of course I hated to see Dems lose that election. That was not a difficult adjustment. Bush the younger was a somewhat different story - but even w/ how close that election was, I still had a level of acceptance that I'd call normal. And I never doubted that Bush wanted what was best for the country - I just disagreed w/ him on what that was.

Trump crosses that threshold, and by your posts on here and what I'm hearing nationally, a lot of conservatives really get that. For many, the vote for him didn't go beyond the fact that he was the "not Hillary." Can you even think of a candidate who inspired dismay and criticism from so many in their own party? And let's not pretend that too much of that is an "anti-establishment" thing. He's just a bad guy.

At minimum, he has lowered the bar for the kind of person we want as POTUS, on either side. I don't see how anyone could really argue that. I get why people voted for him, but I think there is a lot of rationalization and glossing over of his more extreme quirks and characteristics.
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You started this thread with the following:
Thing1 said:
There are a lot of "you guys are so crazy" sentiments directed toward the lefties here. Definitely an expression that the left is way over the top, and just being "sore losers."

Can anyone on the other side explain to me what it is about Trump's personality that gives you cause to express that? How does he seem intelligent & measured to you? Is his personality somehow one that should NOT lend itself to a heightened level of concern? Is he someone that you would trust with even a small, personal situation - much less the welfare of our country & the free world?

I'm actually interested to here someone defend him as even a marginally acceptable disposition to take this office. He literally seems insane to me - someone who is completely detached from reality.

How does he not seem that way to you?
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And now you say you were hoping for "thoughtful responses"!!

Then why are you trying to excuse the behavior of the liberals, on a liberal perception of personalities?
 
Queen Snowflake said:
I have formulated my opinion of him over the last 30 years from listening to him speak, from the numerous articles I have read about his businesses and his business practices. It is the job of the media and I don't mean cable news, to inform us and there are some great journalists who do just that, and they aren't on Fox or MSNBC.
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No you didn't. You aren't smart enough to do that. You believe what you're told to believe.
 
aloysious said:
What's not funny is that most everybody severely underestimates him. Amazing how he confounds most people, you gotta give him that.
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Most mentally ill people are like that, people underestimate them and they confound most people. My friends daughter is bi polar, one never knows what she is thinking and to underestimate her has caused my friend to land in the hospital. I wouldn't call these traits desirable.
 
Queen Snowflake said:
Most mentally ill people are like that, people underestimate them and they confound most people. My friends daughter is bi polar, one never knows what she is thinking and to underestimate her has caused my friend to land in the hospital. I wouldn't call these traits desirable.
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I think YOUR daughter might be bi-polar, not your friends daughter. She takes after you.
 
Queen Snowflake said:
Most mentally ill people are like that, people underestimate them and they confound most people. My friends daughter is bi polar, one never knows what she is thinking and to underestimate her has caused my friend to land in the hospital. I wouldn't call these traits desirable.
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When did she run for the office of the Presidency??
 
Double Tap said:
As Grind so brilliantly pointed out you are living in this faux reality you have created for yourself. Is he a fraud and con man? That is your opinion. If people know what they are getting then he is not perpetrating a fraud now is he? Is he a narcissist? Fuck yeah he is a narcissist. I doubt anyone achieves the level of success he has and aspires to be President WITHOUT being a narcissist. That you ascribe those characteristics to him and somehow think they are absent in your own politicians represent your own lack of realism than any character flaws Trump possesses.

You also seem to be operating under this false illusion that conservatives strive for some "perfect" candidate. What is more striking in your comment is that your last statement seems to imply that the democrat party does not value a "role model" in a President.

Lastly, all those things that you think of Trump the right thought of Obama. Of course you will vehemently disagree, but that won't change that dynamic.

As I have so brilliantly pointed out previously, when you have a country that is as split as ours and a federal government that has abrogated so much power than the US Constitution authorized you are bound to have half of the country unhappy with the outcome of an election.

The left was unhappy for 12 years of Reagan/Bush. The right was unhappy with 8 years of Bill Clinton. The left was unhappy with 8 years of Bush 43. The right was unhappy with 8 years of Obama. Notice a trend here? Well guess what? Tag you are fucking it.

You are so fucking convinced of your own moral superiority that you can't fathom that there are those that think differently than you. So now you will spend the next four years trying to get people to change their minds. Well guess what? If past is prologue they will not change their minds anymore than Obama voters changed their minds.

From my perspective you Obama supporters overlooked many of his failings and Hillary's failings. That you ascribe this failing only to your political opponents and not your allies says more about your own biases and prejudices than those you seek to impugn
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^^^translated...Donald Trump can grab my pussy any day!
 
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