Trumps Taxes today at the Supreme Court!

floridafan said:
Just as long as Congress get the tax returns they requested from DJT, there is no problem. You are the one, my dear, that seems to have a problem with our laws.
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Insult away, dude. It doesn't change the facts no matter how many insults or names you sling my way.

The OP asked a question, I gave my opinion. Let's see what SCOTUS does....and, yes, I noticed you didn't answer the questions in the OP. :)
 
Dutch Uncle said:
LOL. I agree Barr is a great disappointment. I wonder what kind of payday Trump promised him?

Still, the US has had more corrupt days. Any links to "most corrupt AGs in American History"?
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When exactly did we have more corrupt days than under this administration.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Insult away, dude. It doesn't change the facts no matter how many insults or names you sling my way.

The OP asked a question, I gave my opinion. Let's see what SCOTUS does....and, yes, I noticed you didn't answer the questions in the OP. :)
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Aren't you the one who said that Congress isn't entitled to trumps tax returns? Eh????????
 
floridafan said:
Aren't you the one who said that Congress isn't entitled to trumps tax returns? Eh????????
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Not to release them to the public. If the law is on the side of Congress, why is SCOTUS involved?

Why did you dodge the question about medical records?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Not to release them to the public. If the law is on the side of Congress, why is SCOTUS involved?

Why did you dodge the question about medical records?
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SCOTUS is involved because this administration wont allow the IRS to do their job.
What was the question about medical records?
 
floridafan said:
SCOTUS is involved because this administration wont allow the IRS to do their job.
What was the question about medical records?
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Meh. Let SCOTUS decide.

You quoted me several times. If you want to play word games, leave me out of it.

Again, I support requiring National elected leaders having to divulge their medical and tax records, not just the Republican ones when it Democrats are pissed.
Dutch Uncle said:
Entitled by whom? The Constitution? Because they're Democrats and he's on the Republican ticket?

Just so we're clear; I fully support all candidates to national office being compelled to release their tax and medical records to a classified bipartisan commission with restrictions so tight that if anyone released private information, they'd go to jail, not just be fined. As we found out with Hillary and every other politician, those rules don't exist.

This is just more partisan political pussyfooting trying to justify digging up dirt on opponents. IF (or when) Biden is elected, how many RWers and LWers on this forum will strain their backs flip-flopping on the issue?
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Dutch Uncle said:
Privacy act. Trump nor anyone else is compelled to release them to the public.

Here's the bottom line: This is all political. If the IRS or the FBI want to see Trump's taxes, the IRS has already done so. The FBI needs a warrant, but that's not too big a deal given national security. The problem for the Democrats is that all of that information is covered by privacy laws and cannot be publicly released without Trump's permission just like Hillary's medical records. The only reason to compel release of medical and tax records is to throw dirt on the person. It's not about law, it's not about national security since those are already covered.
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The problem for the Democrats is that all of that information is covered by privacy laws and cannot be publicly released without Trump's permission just like Hillary's medical records.
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And this is my problem with that: 15 minutes after they get their paws on it, some jackass is gonna step up and say "we can't disclose the contents of these documents, but suffice to say this is much more disturbing than we initially imagined" That's all they got to do, then there's the inevitable leaks. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's any legal basis for this
 
Callinectes said:
And this is my problem with that: 15 minutes after they get their paws on it, some jackass is gonna step up and say "we can't disclose the contents of these documents, but suffice to say this is much more disturbing than we initially imagined" That's all they got to do, then there's the inevitable leaks. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's any legal basis for this
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Agreed. This is all just politics, not fact-finding or truth-hunting.

If the Democrats were serious about this, they'd have passed laws when it was a Democrat President and a Democrat Congress. They didn't. Why? Because they like the laws just the way they are.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
If the law is on the side of Congress, why is SCOTUS involved?
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I'm sure you were just joking with that question, DU, right?

Do you have any idea of just how many cases have been before the SCOTUS where "the law was on the side of Congress?"

One of the purposes of the SCOTUS...is to determine whether the law is on one side or the other. That is its purpose.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Meh. Let SCOTUS decide.

You quoted me several times. If you want to play word games, leave me out of it.

Again, I support requiring National elected leaders having to divulge their medical and tax records, not just the Republican ones when it Democrats are pissed.
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Trump promised to release his records, but in the past when the subject has come up, you have defended him, made excuses for him, every single time. Dont pretend, my dear, that you are someone you are not!
 
Callinectes said:
And this is my problem with that: 15 minutes after they get their paws on it, some jackass is gonna step up and say "we can't disclose the contents of these documents, but suffice to say this is much more disturbing than we initially imagined" That's all they got to do, then there's the inevitable leaks. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's any legal basis for this
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Well, my guess is that you ARE wrong.

My further guess is that the SCOTUS will make a determination on this. I doubt the congress or the SDNY will accept what you think to be the determinant.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Privacy act. Trump nor anyone else is compelled to release them to the public.

Here's the bottom line: This is all political. If the IRS or the FBI want to see Trump's taxes, the IRS has already done so. The FBI needs a warrant, but that's not too big a deal given national security. The problem for the Democrats is that all of that information is covered by privacy laws and cannot be publicly released without Trump's permission just like Hillary's medical records. The only reason to compel release of medical and tax records is to throw dirt on the person. It's not about law, it's not about national security since those are already covered.
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This is not a case about releasing them to the public, although that will eventually happen if they are released to Congress or the prosecutor.
 
Callinectes said:
And this is my problem with that: 15 minutes after they get their paws on it, some jackass is gonna step up and say "we can't disclose the contents of these documents, but suffice to say this is much more disturbing than we initially imagined" That's all they got to do, then there's the inevitable leaks. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's any legal basis for this
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I have already posted the law that allows Congress to obtain anyones tax returns. Deal with it.
 
Frank Apisa said:
I'm sure you were just joking with that question, DU, right?

Do you have any idea of just how many cases have been before the SCOTUS where "the law was on the side of Congress?"

One of the purposes of the SCOTUS...is to determine whether the law is on one side or the other. That is its purpose.
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Note joking. The fact remains by the time something works its way up to SCOTUS, it's obviously pretty controversial and a tough nut to crack. If it was easy, then the lower courts would have ruled on it.

Again, if this is such a big problem, why haven't the Democrats changed the laws on it for 50 years? Why, all of a sudden, is it a problem? Because it's political and DJT is a douchebag.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Not to release them to the public. If the law is on the side of Congress, why is SCOTUS involved?

Why did you dodge the question about medical records?
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Because, Trump is refusing to follow the law, and is asking the Supreme Court to say that the way it is being enforced is unconstitutional
 
Jarod said:
Because, Trump is refusing to follow the law, and is asking the Supreme Court to say that the way it is being enforced is unconstitutional
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Awesome. Then SCOTUS will rule as you say. You asked my opinion, I gave it:

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Dutch Uncle said:
Privacy act. Trump nor anyone else is compelled to release them to the public.

Here's the bottom line: This is all political. If the IRS or the FBI want to see Trump's taxes, the IRS has already done so. The FBI needs a warrant, but that's not too big a deal given national security. The problem for the Democrats is that all of that information is covered by privacy laws and cannot be publicly released without Trump's permission just like Hillary's medical records. The only reason to compel release of medical and tax records is to throw dirt on the person. It's not about law, it's not about national security since those are already covered.
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