Trumptard Excuse thread

Concart said:
Good and fair question.

If I could waive my magic wand here would be my priorities:

1. Single payer health care. Before you scream socialism, here are the elements of what I'd do. Cover every single American for annual wellness visits, all preventative screenings, and hospitalizations. Allow employers to offer plans to their employees (like Medicare Advantage), and have a public option to compete with private plans. People could opt in to those plans (for a premium) or take basic coverage provided by 'Medicare for All'. Focus our health care priorities on prevention. We spend a ridiculous amount of money on people with diabetes and heart disease that are easily preventable by changing lifestyles and more tightly regulating food manufacturers. Sugar is killing people. Require Advanced Illness counseling. Half of our Medicare dollars are spent on people in the last year of the life. Doctors want to treat people. We have to allow people to make the choice to forgo treatment. From personal experience, I know many patients are pressured to 'fight' but are happier when they stop their treatments and focus on comfort.

2. Reform social security. If number 1 is effective, we will see an uptick in life expectancy, and we have not funded social security to adequately address that. We should look at what income is taxed to fund social security. We can easily increase revenues.

3. Raise the minimum wage. Yes, this will cause some inflation. Inflation is not inherently bad if it wages are rising at the same rate.

4. Tax reform. We are not taxing top incomes at anywhere near the rate they should be taxed. As part of the tax reform, we impose the one time wealth tax to retroactively address the disparity in wages and wealth.

5. Make public colleges free. I need to think about how exactly this would look, but it would involve raising admission standards and lowering costs. Other countries educate their best and brightest, we 'educate' our richest. That's stupid. We need to do the same for trade schools.

Those are a start. As part of all of this we need to address racial inequality, but much of what I'm proposing would do exactly that.
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Removing healthcare from companies would take the cost of it plus the handling of it off their backs making them instantly more competitive with companies in countries that do not put that cost on their businesses. Our system is stupid.
 
AssHatZombie said:
you have no policies or visions. merely hating trump is not a platform.

this is why you are losing.
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Can you articulate Trump's vision for his second term? If you can, you are way ahead of Trump. When asked that question, he just babbled. I'm not sure what your definition of losing is. I thought if you were ahead in every poll, you were winning. But maybe you can explain to me why that's wrong. LOL at you.
 
Concart said:
Can you articulate Trump's vision for his second term? If you can, you are way ahead of Trump. When asked that question, he just babbled. I'm not sure what your definition of losing is. I thought if you were ahead in every poll, you were winning. But maybe you can explain to me why that's wrong. LOL at you.
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more pushback on china. more anti globalism. getting out of entangling alliances. more telling the u.n. and w.h.o. to fuck off.
bringing troops home from bad engagements around the world.

now you go. whats the dem vision?
 
Concart said:
Can you articulate Trump's vision for his second term? If you can, you are way ahead of Trump. When asked that question, he just babbled. I'm not sure what your definition of losing is. I thought if you were ahead in every poll, you were winning. But maybe you can explain to me why that's wrong. LOL at you.
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Screw over most everyone. Fleece America for every penny that I can get.
 
Phantasmal said:
I like how son, Barron.
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Nordberg said:
Removing healthcare from companies would take the cost of it plus the handling of it off their backs making them instantly more competitive with companies in countries that do not put that cost on their businesses. Our system is stupid.
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I actually agree with this. broken clocks are right twice a day, unless its a military clock; then its just once.
 
having healthcare tied to jobs is a regrettable facet of the generally coporatist underpinning of our society.

public private partnership = fascism. sorry establishment, but you need to do better.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Yeah, I don't live in retardville, idk what else to say.
Oh! I got something: What would you do to make the US better?
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To make the US better, I would raise taxes and develop a universal healthcare system. I would also change the tax bracket system so that the guy who earns $1 million/yr isn't paying the same tax rate as the guy who earns ten or a hundred times the amount.
 
Concart said:
It's time to get a head start on excuses for Trumps blowout loss. I'll seed this to get you started:

Demonrats voted seven times each.
Hillary did it.
Comey, Brennan, Clapper and Obama
The election oversampled Democrats
Fake News

Feel free use this thread to make up excuses for the other stupid shit Trump does too. For example:

'He was never briefed on X'
'He didn't know that was a concentration camp symbol'
'He was kidding'


Just post the stupid thing he did and your list of excuses. Should be fun.
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HUGE thread FAIL. HUGE.:|
 
Nordberg said:
Pee Pee thinks Dems do not know about the electoral college. It was in the constitution. It was known for almost 250 years. But reds discovered it. We just noticed the vote was always a total of electoral votes. It is how the TV stations keep track since TV election nights were started.
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:laugh: :hand:
 
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