Turns out Obama was right!

This thread hasn't turned out very well for the righties, has it?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
since it didn't happen I'm proud of you for not believing it.....you'd have looked really stupid if you had believed it......
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http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/newt-gingrich-fire-the-janitors-let-the-kids-clean-the-schools/


Newt Gingrich: Fire The Janitors, Let The Kids Clean The Schools

Newt Gingrich tonight said at an address at Harvard that child work laws “entrap” poor children into poverty – and suggested that a better way to handle failing schools is to fire the janitors, hire the local students and let them get paid for upkeep.

The comment came in response to an undergrad’s question about income equality during his talk at Harvard’s Kennedy School.

“You say to somebody, you shouldn’t go to work before you’re what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You’re totally poor. You’re in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I’ve tried for years to have a very simple model,” he said. “Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”
 
ZappasGuitar said:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/newt-gingrich-fire-the-janitors-let-the-kids-clean-the-schools/


Newt Gingrich: Fire The Janitors, Let The Kids Clean The Schools

Newt Gingrich tonight said at an address at Harvard that child work laws “entrap” poor children into poverty – and suggested that a better way to handle failing schools is to fire the janitors, hire the local students and let them get paid for upkeep.

The comment came in response to an undergrad’s question about income equality during his talk at Harvard’s Kennedy School.

“You say to somebody, you shouldn’t go to work before you’re what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You’re totally poor. You’re in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I’ve tried for years to have a very simple model,” he said. “Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”
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as much as the world would benefit from eliminating union jobs, the moral of his story is that many children today have never learned the skills necessary to hold a job and that schools should engage in teaching them those skills......not that I would expect a liberal to understand that, of course.....they haven't learned the skills themselves, yet.....
 
\(())/ said:
This thread hasn't turned out very well for the righties, has it?
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Not too many threads do once the facts are put out there. The problem is the Righties have difficulty thinking things through.

Take cleaning the schools. Unionised janitorial staff are covered for accidents. What company is going to insure/underwrite a policy for 14 year olds? Does Newt have any idea how slippery floors become when being stripped of wax? If a child is injured and off school are they going to go to his home and teach him?

Newt talks about fundamental change to poverty if he gets elected. Yep, let's start by getting rid of child labor laws.

It's quite the spectacle watching how low the Righties are willing to go.

Reminds me when I was in High School. I was summoned to the Counsellor's office and asked what chores I did after school. I told him I didn't do any chores after school. He looked straight at me and in a somewhat threatening tone said something along the line of "If you were my son you'd be doing chores!" or "If you were my son you wouldn't have a choice." And I responded, "If you were my father and ever laid a hand on me you wouldn't be here now."

That was the end of the conversation. I was told to get out of his office. :lol:

The good, old conservative way of life.

A few years ago they used to have ads on billboards and buses showing an abused child and/or woman with the caption, "Violence breeds violence." In other words how one was brought up carries through to adulthood and is passed on. I wouldn't be surprised those who propose harsh conditions/solutions on others probably experienced those conditions themselves. As a society we have an obligation to break the cycle and drag them into the 21st century.

When people talk about Obama not doing a lot we have to remember he's dragging half of Congress along with him. Talk about a millstone around ones neck!
 
PostmodernProphet said:
as much as the world would benefit from eliminating union jobs, the moral of his story is that many children today have never learned the skills necessary to hold a job and that schools should engage in teaching them those skills......not that I would expect a liberal to understand that, of course.....they haven't learned the skills themselves, yet.....
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Liberals are not like Conservatives. They don't have to actually do something in order to understand it.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
as much as the world would benefit from eliminating union jobs, the moral of his story is that many children today have never learned the skills necessary to hold a job and that schools should engage in teaching them those skills......not that I would expect a liberal to understand that, of course.....they haven't learned the skills themselves, yet.....
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You seemed to be claiming that Newtsie never said schools should fire janitors and make kids do the work earlier, PiMP...

PostmodernProphet said:
since it didn't happen I'm proud of you for not believing it.....you'd have looked really stupid if you had believed it......
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Watch PiMP dance...


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Eye said:
what was obama 'right' about?

seems the libs here are too scared to address their fellow libby's thread title
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What's to address? The following points are from the first post.

Employment growth picked up speed in November
Nonfarm payrolls increased 120,000 last month
September and October to show 72,000 more jobs created than previously reported.
Solid gains in employment
The labor market is gradually healing

Are we, the Libs, supposed to argue with that?
 
If the momentum builds, the challenge for the GOP will be figuring out how to adjust their attitudes — or, shall we say, curb their pessimism.


As they see it and say it, the private sector is yearning to breathe free of the constraints of a hostile, overgrown, overtaxing federal government, micromanaging regulations and massive debt.


If the economy appears finally to be moving in the right direction, will they keep lamenting the dark clouds in the sky?


In 2004 and again in 2008, whenever Democrats attacked George W. Bushs' economic record despite glimmers of hopeful economic news, they were ripped for “talking down the economy.”


The charge was that they 'wanted Bush to have a bad economic record' and so, in criticizing it, would help make it so.


Now, the orthopedic shoe is on the other limping foot.


The Republican House’s entire rationale is based on the premise that Obamanomics, from TARP (which started under Bush) to the stimulus to health care reform, failed utterly.


What if that narrative no longer holds?


What if the long-promised signs of life finally start to materialize — and with that economic activity comes higher tax receipts?


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...s-talk-economy-article-1.986090#ixzz1fZTf2o4j
 
PostmodernProphet said:
as much as the world would benefit from eliminating union jobs, the moral of his story is that many children today have never learned the skills necessary to hold a job and that schools should engage in teaching them those skills......not that I would expect a liberal to understand that, of course.....they haven't learned the skills themselves, yet.....
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That's nice, but what's it got to do with the fact you were lying about Gingrich's statement?
 
apple0154 said:
What's to address? The following points are from the first post.

Employment growth picked up speed in November
Nonfarm payrolls increased 120,000 last month
September and October to show 72,000 more jobs created than previously reported.
Solid gains in employment
The labor market is gradually healing

Are we, the Libs, supposed to argue with that?
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you forget, 312k people gave up trying to find jobs......
 
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