US COVID-19 deaths by Election Day
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It doesn't take any balls to speculate. I asked you a question; why don't you have the balls and honesty to answer them? Because you are a dishonest hack?
Take my bet: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...berals-are-strongly-encouraged-to-participate
How do I not respond to your lunatic rants? Good lord you are a brainless wonder twat.
How am I trolling? I debated your points and still have gotten ZERO response from you. More proof of what a brainless dishonest hack you really are.
6 months for a Miracle to happen is probably NOT going to happen.
Sure they are, but unlike the Federal Gov't, Trump, the States don't have an equilvant CDC, FEMA, DHS, FDA, nor the spending ability of the Federal Gov't., they weren't nor are equipped to handle a pandemic on their own, unfortunately, that is pretty much what they have had to do
Hardly, pure Trump, you don't think he does everything with his eye on November? He don't give a rat's ass about people nor actually the economy other than how it will effect him at the ballot box and his persoanl businesses interests. Setting up scapegoats has always been his motif, no different here, employing China, Democrats, media has reached the point of diminishing returns, he has to have one come October and he's already setting up the Governors, your "arguememt" shows it
PoliTalker
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Dutch Uncle
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Agreed. 31,000 dead Americans in 6 weeks is serious. Even with the curve flattening and social distancing, this disease is spreading to other states. Like New Jersey and the South Dakota pork plant, there are places where people can't social distance. The virus will spread to all before the first one shows symptoms. Election day is over 26 weeks away. That's a lot of time for another 31,000 Americans to succumb to this disease.
I strongly doubt Trump will get his way to open up the country. In fact, I'm pretty sure his advisers are 'splainin' that to him daily. Trump, ever the showman, is just putting on a song'n'dance routine for the Trump voters so he can blame the Democrats, the Chinese and everyone else for the deaths and the poor economy on Election Day.
BTW, notice how, despite all of their big talk, the Trumpeteers are avoiding voting in the poll and will avoid both the poll and this thread like it was COVID-19. LOL
Dutch Uncle
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He's an experienced showman and TV show host. He knows how to play a crowd.
No telling how this plays out. I can easily see how we all get this eventually. Hopefully, most of us will survive and become immune.
The Elderly seem to be the prime victims in this.
I'd sure like to see more antibody test kits come out and have everybody tested. That would create a sense of security if you knew everybody around you was immune.
floridafan
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How do I not respond to your lunatic rants? Good lord you are a brainless wonder twat.
Your ONLY response is to deflect and/or change the subject. You are soooo predictable.
At this point, the question is whether it stays under that number by the end of April. I'm not convinced it will. We need to see some reductions in cases pretty quick since we are averaging about 2000 deaths per day in the last 9 days. Our daily new cases have held pretty steady and deaths trail new cases by about a week.
PoliTalker
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Hello Dutch Uncle,
Does the poll have a time limit?
You know I like mathematics.
Obviously, the longer one waits to vote, the more informed their choice is.
I'm inclined to say yes, the number will go higher than 62K by election day.
It's already at 33,490 on worldometer, and 31,590 on Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering website.
Worldometer says there are also 13K in serious / critical condition. I understand that most people who go on a ventilator pretty much end up dying. That would easily place the death toll over 40K, and we are still adding new cases every day. Yesterday, we added over 30K new cases.
If it doesn't go over 62K, it will certainly get very close.
And what if DT calls off the shut-down?
Then all bets are off?
Also, there is confusion as to what the Poll question actually is.
The stated Poll Question is not the same as the longer question posted in the OP, which carries additional conditions.
Personally, I think DT is going to mimmick what has happened in China.
At first, they denied it even existed, punished those who tried to warn everyone. DT's got that box checked.
Then they had to admit it and took strong measures. Check, again.
And lately, they have opened back up, and are seeing their numbers go back up in a 'Second Wave.' Will DT check that box, too?
I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't. He's been dancing all around it. Looks like he is about to.
And here comes the strongman approach with that.
You know what he is going to do.
He lacks the authority to order States to open for business, but he'll do it anyway, and if they fail to comply he will apply all kinds of unrelated pressure by withholding other things that have nothing to do with it. He is relentless in his over-reach of power.
I bet he 'opens the country up' too soon, and we get the second wave, which will surely put the figure over the 62K estimate if it didn't go there anyway.
That's my vote.
Does the poll have a time limit?
You know I like mathematics.
Obviously, the longer one waits to vote, the more informed their choice is.
I'm inclined to say yes, the number will go higher than 62K by election day.
It's already at 33,490 on worldometer, and 31,590 on Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering website.
Worldometer says there are also 13K in serious / critical condition. I understand that most people who go on a ventilator pretty much end up dying. That would easily place the death toll over 40K, and we are still adding new cases every day. Yesterday, we added over 30K new cases.
If it doesn't go over 62K, it will certainly get very close.
And what if DT calls off the shut-down?
Then all bets are off?
Also, there is confusion as to what the Poll question actually is.
The stated Poll Question is not the same as the longer question posted in the OP, which carries additional conditions.
Personally, I think DT is going to mimmick what has happened in China.
At first, they denied it even existed, punished those who tried to warn everyone. DT's got that box checked.
Then they had to admit it and took strong measures. Check, again.
And lately, they have opened back up, and are seeing their numbers go back up in a 'Second Wave.' Will DT check that box, too?
I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't. He's been dancing all around it. Looks like he is about to.
And here comes the strongman approach with that.
You know what he is going to do.
He lacks the authority to order States to open for business, but he'll do it anyway, and if they fail to comply he will apply all kinds of unrelated pressure by withholding other things that have nothing to do with it. He is relentless in his over-reach of power.
I bet he 'opens the country up' too soon, and we get the second wave, which will surely put the figure over the 62K estimate if it didn't go there anyway.
That's my vote.
Dutch Uncle
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I can easily see how we all get this eventually. Hopefully, most of us will survive and become immune.
The Elderly seem to be the prime victims in this.
I'd sure like to see more antibody test kits come out and have everybody tested. That would create a sense of security if you knew everybody around you was immune.
The immunity thing is still undetermined. Additionally, if this virus mutates like flu, then it's a whole new ballgame. Even so, neither vaccines or nation-wide testing is expected in the next six months. Trump claimed 27 million by the end of April and only about 3M have been done in a nation of 327M.
Dutch Uncle
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I think it will flatten, but agreed: there will be a lot more deaths in the weeks and months to come. There is no vaccine or cure projected to be available en masse by November.
Thanks for voting in the poll. Not everyone has the guts to post an opinion and stand by it.
Too many are like Trump.
Dutch Uncle
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Please vote. No time limit. Obviously some people may vote on November 2nd, but it will be obvious by that time who took a stand and who didn't. There's no money riding on this.
If Trump calls off the shut down (he won't) then the numbers will go higher.
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed. I'm certain US medicine will find both a cure and a vaccine but not before the election. At least not for mass distribution before the election and probably not before Christmas.