VERDICT!

this is a correct verdict under florida law. i am glad that i do not live in florida

was justice served, i do not think so, but a bad law was served.

zimmerman, though will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life. i suspect that his action will haunt him for the rest of his life
 
I hope no one retaliates against Zimmerman; while I think the verdict was fucked, it was a verdict and we have to live with it.

But he probably won't be a cop now, and that's a good thing.

I wonder if Martins will do a civil lawsuit now? Like with OJ....

I don't believe we do have to live with it. To me, it's important to view it through a more historic lens. All white juries aquiting the murderers of black males is a Southern tradition. In years past, civil rights charges have had to be brought against the murderers by the dept of justice. Ben Jealous is attempting to do that, though I will state that since Obama is a coward, I believe it won't happen. He wants to go along to get along way too much.

Further, it is very important IMO, that white feminists take a break from defending the right wing onslaught against all women, to stand against this injustice. The mainstream feminist movement is often too insular, and then some of us wonder, well why don't more black women join us? Well, what we should ask is, why don't we join them? So this week, I will join them in NYC.
 
I don't believe we do have to live with it. To me, it's important to view it through a more historic lens. All white juries aquiting the murderers of black males is a Southern tradition. In years past, civil rights charges have had to be brought against the murderers by the dept of justice. Ben Jealous is attempting to do that, though I will state that since Obama is a coward, I believe it won't happen. He wants to go along to get along way too much.

Further, it is very important IMO, that white feminists take a break from defending the right wing onslaught against all women, to stand against this injustice. The mainstream feminist movement is often too insular, and then some of us wonder, well why don't more black women join us? Well, what we should ask is, why don't we join them? So this week, I will join them in NYC.

The thing is Darla... we don't know that there was an injustice. Not that can be proved.
 
WTF is wrong with you?
The kid is dead, zim's gun killed him, the verdict is a gross miscarriage of justice. End of fucking story,

Wow....that's all there is to it? Nothing about the struggle? At all?

What's "wrong" with me is that Zimmerman was the only one with a story to tell...there were no witnesses to the altercation, only the aftermath.

Hey....I don't like it either....I THINK Zimmerman went John Wayne on the kid....but, I can't prove it.
 
LOL puhlease!

Liberals are making threats about Zimmerman and his future. That's some fine sportmanship

What threats? All I said was that the people need to take justice into their own hands. I am not of "the people", they having long rejected me, so it will not be into my hands the justice will be taken. All I'm saying is, if at some point in the future, he has an encounter with some fast moving projectile, which had a meeting with him at the instruction of some non-watermarkian third party, I will not find the events that had conspired so surprising or outrageous. That's not a threat.
 
Wow....that's all there is to it? Nothing about the struggle? At all?

What's "wrong" with me is that Zimmerman was the only one with a story to tell...there were no witnesses to the altercation, only the aftermath.

Hey....I don't like it either....I THINK Zimmerman went John Wayne on the kid....but, I can't prove it.

You don't need to prove it. Here are the indisputable facts;

Zim followed Martin.
Zim had a gun
Martin is dead from zim's gun
 
Wow....that's all there is to it? Nothing about the struggle? At all?

What's "wrong" with me is that Zimmerman was the only one with a story to tell...there were no witnesses to the altercation, only the aftermath.

Hey....I don't like it either....I THINK Zimmerman went John Wayne on the kid....but, I can't prove it.

That is precisely the problem with this law. It provides blanket protection for someone if they considered their own actions to be "reasonable", but by definition the only witness to the actions will usually be themselves. So you can kill anyone you want, and as long as no one witnessed it, just claim that your actions were "reasonable". It's an absurdly broad non-self-defense law.
 
That is precisely the problem with this law. It provides blanket protection for someone if they considered their own actions to be "reasonable", but by definition the only witness to the actions will usually be themselves. So you can kill anyone you want, and as long as no one witnessed it, just claim that your actions were "reasonable". It's an absurdly broad non-self-defense law.

Yep....that seems to.be the case. I have to wonder how it will effect vigilantes justice from here on out
 
There was no problem with our self defense laws, almost every instance in which people believe that someone acting in self-defense was treated harshly is a sensationalist myth propagated by the rightist media. Those who act in self defense have always been treated sympathetically by juries and the justice system. There was no need for these additional non-self-defense laws. The true problem that rightists have is that killing a black person isn't automatically classified as self-defense. Notice that there was essentially no outrage about our self-defense laws, they were just fine, until after the civil rights era. They just needed something new, since lynching wasn't acceptable anymore.
 
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I wonder what zimmerman will do tomorrow? Hug his family? Laugh? Watch a movie and relax? Breath the fresh air? Enjoy life?

I wonder what the violent criminal Trayvon will do tomorrow?

Oh wait, I forgot. Violent criminals that punch and physically assault people for doing nothing illegal are able to be legally killed.

You are going over the top here. Despite Trayvons actions he didn't deserve to die. That is hyperbole.

Zimmermans life is changed forever. He still has to live with the fact that he took another persons life. You shouldn't be cavalier about it.
 
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