Was it necessary for the police to shoot?

Was it necessary for the police to shoot?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 40.0%

  • No

    Votes: 6 60.0%
  • Total voters
    10
those police officers had NO IDEA of her mental state OR intentions.


hating on the police is a new one for you right wing idiots
 
After a car chase through the heart of the nation's capital ended with police shooting to death a 34-year-old Connecticut woman, security experts are wondering whether that was their only option.


Michael Lyman, a former criminal investigator who has studied use-of-force guidelines for police, said the woman's inability to penetrate barriers around the White House downgraded the situation from a national security concern to an "old-fashioned pursuit."


From that point on, he said, officers should have tried to use other means to stop the car.


"Shooting at a moving vehicle is against all nationally recognized protocols," said Lyman, a criminal justice professor at Columbia College of Missouri.


Lyman said the possibility of accidentally striking innocent bystanders is just too high when trying to shoot at a moving car.


"Cops get rattled," he said. "And when they get rattled, police don't always shoot straight."


Geoffrey Alpert, a criminology professor at the University of South Carolina, said that Washington's unfortunate history as a target of terrorist attacks cannot lower the threshold for officers deciding to open fire in a crowded area.


"Does it increase the level of risk? Yes. But it's still the same standard as any other use of force," Alpert said. "The officers need to explain why each one pulled the trigger and each bullet expended."


Even if police were trying to shoot out the tires of the car in an effort to disable it — something people see in movies and TV shows all the time — experts say that's an incredibly difficult feat to actually pull off. Dan Kennedy, a forensic criminologist, said police are instructed not to attempt that, because bullets end up ricocheting off the pavement or the vehicle and potentially striking bystanders.


"There's been a real disconnect between reality and expectations on the part of civilians based largely on what they've seen on TV and in the movies," Kennedy said. "It's generally a bad idea to fire at a moving vehicle and most police departments don't allow it."


Lyman said officers could have tried to place tire-deflation devices on the road ahead of the driver. They could have used more cars to try and box her in.


Most important, Lyman said, Thursday's shooting should prompt D.C. law enforcement agencies to consider installing more pop-up vehicle barriers throughout the area. There are several such barriers — metal gates that can be raised up from the road — next to many federal buildings. But Lyman said Thursday's chase shows how they could be used along other streets in the capital region.


"These would not only stop a vehicle, they would give law enforcement officers the opportunity to apprehend without resorting to deadly force," he said. "That should be a conversation that law enforcement should have in D.C."


Alpert said the shooting should also prompt D.C. law enforcement to consider bolstering approaches to the White House, Capitol and other critical buildings.



http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/04/capitol-shooting-questions/2922571/
 
evince said:
If you grab a ladys purse and she falls down and hits her head you are to blame for her injuries under the law.


WHY do you think the police should have just allowed the woman to run away unpursued when she had already attempted to kill someone with her car?
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What if someone assaults another person and then bangs their head into a sidewalk??
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
No she didn't, the poor woman panicked and the officer was in the way. Why did they put up a road block with absolutely no warning? Would you still be defending them if the baby had been shot as well?
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Why didn't they just shoot out the tires, or shoot her in the leg?? :dunno:
 
christiefan915 said:
She had mental health problems since the baby's birth. It's just so sad. Now we'll never know why she snapped like that.

"Carey's mother, Idella Carey, told ABC News Thursday night that her daughter began suffering from post-partum depression after giving birth to her daughter, Erica, last August.

"She had post-partum depression after having the baby" she said. She added, "A few months later, she got sick. She was depressed. ... She was hospitalized."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/0...itol-hill-chase-reportedly-had-mental-health/
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Why do we allow mentally ill people to have access to cars.
There needs to be a comprehensive change to how we regulate the sale and possession of motor vehicles.
 
they did shoot to disable first clown and when she aimed her car at the second barricade with officers standing in front of it they shot her so she would not hit them.


why do you say crap when your brain isn't loaded?
 
evince said:
the woman ranmmed a barracde and ran over an officer when she was ordered to stop.

she did a high speed chase and then tried to ram MORE barracades so the officers at that barracde shot her.


Having a vag does not preclude you from being pursued and stopped for attempted murder
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Did the cop have any business standing in the way of her car??
 
Truth Detector said:
Because you are an incredible dullard like Evince; here is the video:


Only incredible dullards think that this event ended correctly. The police did not need to fire multiple shots into this car to stop this chase or at the end of this chase and that is not standard procedure.

No cop was seriously injured nor was it evident this was some terrorist or mass murderer.

Dumbass.
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WHY - WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST SHOOT AND DISABLE THE CAR?
IF THEY HAD DONE THIS, THAT POOR WOMAN WOULD STILL BE ALIVE AND GETTING THE HELP THAT APPARENTLY MANY KNEW SHE NEEDED.
 
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