We Have So Much To Be Thankful To China For

PoliTalker said:
This whole 'hate China' thing is a sadly recurring and wrongfully misplaced theme among conservative thinkers.

And to think that a lot of these China haters are also gun nuts raises an extreme hypocrisy.

We have to wonder if they even know who invented gunpowder.

If European invaders had not acquired gunpowder technology from China, their conquest of America would almost certainly have gone very differently. There might not even be a USA if it were not for that Chinese invention.

It is reminiscent of the absurd hatred of France to the point of trying to change French Fries into Freedom Fries, all the while forgetting that without France, the USA would never have gained independence.

The USA has benefited so very greatly from Chinese wisdom, tech and cheap manufacturing over the centuries...

And then there is our great economy. (at least up until a little while ago) The US economy would be NOTHING without China. Our economies are so interlinked and intertwined it would be devastating to both if we tried to separate them and go all isolationist.

We need to maintain a good relationship with China.
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There is lots of talk of decoupling but not much about how to do it & the repercussions..

Ever thought about why the USA & Canada weren't invited to the BRI party??:thinking:

If we split w/ the CCP we will have to do w/out a lot, &/or pay more if we can find it.. Much just isn't produced here any more~ & oddly enough not because there is no market here..

We can all imagine how we will suffer, meds, tv's phones etc..

How will they suffer??

We don't sell them a whole lot comparatively, & partly because of their restrictions..

What they are doing is creating new markets, our replacements via the BRI........

What markets can we create, exploit etc??? Will we continue to be to busy warring in the ME & Central asia while ccp continues to expand?
 
Bill said:
There is lots of talk of decoupling but not much about how to do it & the repercussions..

Ever thought about why the USA & Canada weren't invited to the BRI party??:thinking:

If we split w/ the CCP we will have to do w/out a lot, &/or pay more if we can find it.. Much just isn't produced here any more~ & oddly enough not because there is no market here..

We can all imagine how we will suffer, meds, tv's phones etc..

How will they suffer??

We don't sell them a whole lot comparatively, & partly because of their restrictions..

What they are doing is creating new markets, our replacements via the BRI........

What markets can we create, exploit etc??? Will we continue to be to busy warring in the ME & Central asia while ccp continues to expand?
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the unknowns of freedom can often seem scary compared to the certainty of tyranny, but scary for whom?
 
PoliTalker said:
DT had a brother who wasn't much good at business, didn't want to be ruthless nor treat people mean like his father taught him to. DT's brother just wanted to live and let live. He was under a lot of pressure to get that killer business instinct and take over the family business, but he never rose to the occasion. He wasn't really sure what he wanted to do with his life, but he knew he could not exploit others in the family tradition. He ended up drinking himself to death.

He was never the partner that DT wanted him to be.

But I bet if you ask him, DT would never say he wished he had no brother, nor would he downtalk him.

China is kind of like the 'different brother' to the USA. A very different personality, with different values and morals.

And the USA is better off for having China in the world than if there were no China.
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China is not our brother, they are our adversary & competitor..

While we kinda use them interchangeably, to be clear, the prob here is the CCP not China, not Chinese ppl-it's the communist party~they are not brothers nor do we, as a country share a goal w/ them...... Wallstreet yea, not main street..........

They are here to replace us, not work w/ us..... wallstreet is making a buck helping them..
 
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This thread is a trip. With stating that conservatives 'hate' China there's the implication that liberals like or love China???

There was definitely a certain element of liberal Americans that loved the Soviet Union and communism (until it fell apart) so from that perspective it would make sense that there would be an affinity for a communist government. But what happened to all the complaints about China stealing American jobs, Chinese sweatshops, driving down wages in the U.S., massive human rights violations, horrible environmental record, etc. etc.?
 
cawacko said:
This thread is a trip. With stating that conservatives 'hate' China there's the implication that liberals like or love China???

There was definitely a certain element of liberal Americans that loved the Soviet Union and communism (until it fell apart) so from that perspective it would make sense that there would be an affinity for a communist government. But what happened to all the complaints about China stealing American jobs, Chinese sweatshops, driving down wages in the U.S., massive human rights violations, horrible environmental record, etc. etc.?
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most dems are just totalitarians at heart, I guess, and all that caring about stuff was bullshit. heil satan.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Jack,



:rofl2: Good one!

Maybe investors and shareholders don't want any attention to their 'plight.'
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Yes. I think you're right. The growing disparity between the 'Haves' and the 'Have-Nots' is probably something the Ownership Class doesn't want to publicize.
 
Jack said:
Yes. Of course. The American Elites (who are also Global Elites) who own American based companies.
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Platitudes is all you have? What is the core problem humans cannot fix in their collective realities within this species? It is purely intellectual also. Always centers on controlling compounding personal choices all the time reproductions occupy space now and it doesn't flow by clock and calendar statistical averaging. Talking life, not societal evolution historically directing outcomes for all the new arrivals of changing people so far.
 
serenity said:
Platitudes is all you have? What is the core problem humans cannot fix in their collective realities within this species? It is purely intellectual also. Always centers on controlling compounding personal choices all the time reproductions occupy space now and it doesn't flow by clock and calendar statistical averaging. Talking life, not societal evolution historically directing outcomes for all the new arrivals of changing people so far.
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bipartisan sellout is truth, not platitude
 
Bill said:
China is not our brother, they are our advisory & competitor..

While we kinda use them interchangeably, to be clear, the prob here is the CCP not China, not Chinese ppl-it's the communist party~they are not brothers nor do we, as a country share a goal w/ them...... Wallstreet yea, not main street..........

They are here to replace us, not work w/ us..... wallstreet is making a buck helping them..
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I knew there was a real bill inside the false bill. nice to see ya.
 
serenity said:
Platitudes is all you have? What is the core problem humans cannot fix in their collective realities within this species? It is purely intellectual also. Always centers on controlling compounding personal choices all the time reproductions occupy space now and it doesn't flow by clock and calendar statistical averaging. Talking life, not societal evolution historically directing outcomes for all the new arrivals of changing people so far.
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Platitudes?

It's coming to terms with the 'Genetic Roll of the Dice'.
 
Jack said:
Platitudes?

It's coming to terms with the 'Genetic Roll of the Dice'.
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stop with the roll off the dice nonsense society trained your brain to focus around, now think, when has your body ever been the same compounding details so far? Hasn't been since conception correct? Every lifetime experiences the conception to birth addition to ever changing people currently occupying space, correct?

specific kinetic displacement occupying space as timed apart now. Where is the roll of the dice at? Naturally never the same active details twice now here by natural selection, watch how society educates by personal behavior socially playing type cast people.

Did you typecast yourself? The rule of law did historically making your ancestry pick a lesser of two necessary evils to organize dobt straon enough to make people wish life wasn't timed apart so far. What is the intellectual end game socially, intellectually, ancestrally?
 
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serenity said:
stop with the roll off the dice nonsense society trained your brain to focus around, now think, when has your body ever been the same compounding details so far? Hasn't been since conception correct? Every lifetime experiences the conception to birth addition to ever changing people currently occupying space, correct?

specific kinetic displacement occupying space as timed apart now. Where is the roll of the dice at? Naturally never the same active details twice now here by natural selection, ahow by personal behavior socially playing type cast people.

Did you typecast yorself? The rule of law did.
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neo-calvinist duncecappery.
 
AssHatZombie said:
because politically we're a two party system, but of course the selling out is multifaceted, like a shining demond.
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and that has to do with life being timed apart reproductions spaced apart now, why? How is it every 2 party system humans used historically is planned obsolescence by those in command of language arts, even America's?
 
serenity said:
and that has to do with life being timed apart reproductions spaced apart now, why? How is it every 2 party system humans used historically is planned obsolescence by those in command of language arts, even America's?
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so you're opposed to divide and conquer techniques of rulership? me too! I knew there was good in you.
 
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