What are the Dems up to threatening Turkey?

DigitalDave said:
Why does congress have to pass something so we can call it what it was though? We don't need their approval to call it a genocide...
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I have to agree with that! It is the first thing I thought: what! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: more wasted time by Congress, imagine that!
 
Darla said:
That's true. Maybe to change unofficial us policy? It has been our policy not to call it a genocide. Bush called it one when he was running in 2000, probably because President Clinton wouldn't call it one. Now, bush won't call it one, wouldn't it be funny if Clinton started calling it one? I mean, that's how f'd in the head we are you know.
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Oh, you have so nailed it, it is hard to tell which way is up these days in politics!
 
Thorn said:
Whether or not it is true that genocide occurred (and I believe that it did), don't these legislators consider the diplomatic consequences of actions such as this? We have to deal with these people today, in this world, in contemporary times. Does the acknowledgement of genocide absolutely have to be made official, today, this year, under the conditions we face in the ME today?

This action is sheer diplomatic folly, and sometimes "right" doesn't enter into it, especially when the wrong occurred 95 years ago. The resolution should be tabled until things in the ME are stable, if they ever become so.
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It should have been made in the late 70s at the very least while tensions were stronger and diplomacy not so important.

This just appears to be an effort to cause problems with an ally, however difficult the relationship is today it seems that this recognition could easily be made at a later date.
 
do we stay the truth for political convience?

we have known about this genocide for decades

i guess that is why we 'do business' with nations with abominable human rights records
 
Yep but nothing like tha axis of evil rhetoric and such ?

I still remember the cheering about that hate filled fearmongering....
 
Superfreak said:
This gains us abosultely nothing. It is political posturing and is going to do far more harm than good. Glad to see the Dem leaders in the House are spending time on such valuable topics.
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It's getting the truth on the record. Don't worry, your zionist overlords will still be considered "the oppressed people of choice".
 
DonQuixote said:
do we stay the truth for political convience?

we have known about this genocide for decades

i guess that is why we 'do business' with nations with abominable human rights records
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Clearly we do. Who would it serve in US politics to do this? Which party might have something to show for it?

They wait until it could be considered politically motivated to do this? Why?
 
Thorn said:
Whether or not it is true that genocide occurred (and I believe that it did), don't these legislators consider the diplomatic consequences of actions such as this? We have to deal with these people today, in this world, in contemporary times. Does the acknowledgement of genocide absolutely have to be made official, today, this year, under the conditions we face in the ME today?

This action is sheer diplomatic folly, and sometimes "right" doesn't enter into it, especially when the wrong occurred 95 years ago. The resolution should be tabled until things in the ME are stable, if they ever become so.
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Well stated. I agree completely.
 
Damocles said:
It should have been made in the late 70s at the very least while tensions were stronger and diplomacy not so important.

This just appears to be an effort to cause problems with an ally, however difficult the relationship is today it seems that this recognition could easily be made at a later date.
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Agreed--this could easily be construed as a measure to make a mess out of our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan and blame the Turks.
 
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