What if everyone voted? The case for 100 percent democracy.

McRocket said:
So...you want to fine people for not voting?
So this forces the poor to vote or face fines that many can ill afford to pay.
And the poor are usually the least knowledgeable/educated about political matters (often through no fault of their own).
So you will get more, poor ignoramuses making idiotic choices based on some arbitrary reason(s).

And since the middle/upper classes don't care about the fines for not voting - far more of them will skip the process.
Even though they will be the ones whom would cast the most educated/logical/sound votes.

So all this system does is guarantee that a higher percentage of idiots will vote than presently do.
Thus, dumbing down the electorate.
And this will cause candidates to dumb down their messages and tactics.

I highly doubt this is a good way to improve America.

Not only is it a ridiculous idea.
It would actually hurt America, IMO.
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brilliant, mcrocket. 5d warfare.
 
BidenPresident said:
Exactly. 'duhhh all politicians are liars n' stuff duhhhh'
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Yeah, it's so juvenile and so lazy.

These people think that they are special because they project a facade of even-handed reason when all they really do is exacerbate partisanship by hyperbolically casting everything as a 1 vs. 1 conflict when it's far more complicated than that.

And when you raise that point, one of two things happens:

1. They get whiny and screechy and play the victim.

2. They conjure lies about themselves to establish credibility they've never had.
 
McRocket said:
Ummm...you hate all children and conservatives.
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At least I'm honest about it.

You say you don't hate those people, but then you turn around and support all the policies that cause them harm, or you oppose all the policies that would help them.

So I'm not sure what kind of points you think you're scoring here by pointing out that I'm honest and you're not.

Unlike you, I am not compelled to obscure or hide my true feelings and thoughts.
 
LV426 said:
Yeah, it's so juvenile and so lazy.

These people think that they are special because they project a facade of even-handed reason when all they really do is exacerbate partisanship by hyperbolically casting everything as a 1 vs. 1 conflict when it's far more complicated than that.

And when you raise that point, one of two things happens:

1. They get whiny and screechy and play the victim.

2. They conjure lies about themselves to establish credibility they've never had.
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They think they are super sophisticated by being cynical. It is just laziness.
 
McRocket said:
Now apparently - you hate centrists.
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Nah, I just think you're a bunch of lazy, leeching, lying, self-righteous, boring good-for-nothings.

Centrists haven't done anything for anyone, and they never will.

Instead, they act as if they are entitled to comfort.

Entitlements are earned and you haven't earned SHIT.
 
LV426 said:
At least I'm honest about it.

You say you don't hate those people, but then you turn around and support all the policies that cause them harm, or you oppose all the policies that would help them.

So I'm not sure what kind of points you think you're scoring here by pointing out that I'm honest and you're not.

Unlike you, I am not compelled to obscure or hide my true feelings and thoughts.
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And which policies do I support that hurts children?

And - I will ask again - what group of people do you not hate?
 
McRocket said:
I am not a centrist, lady.

I am nothing politically.

Though I realize you cannot accept that.
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Oh, right you're not a centrist because you don't even participate in the political process.

Your role seems to be to just sit on a bunch of phone books and say vapid shit that just highlights how fucking lazy you are.

Congratulations for not even underachieving.
 
LV426 said:
Guns, guns, guns.
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Wow...you sure make a LOT of assumptions.
Where did I type that I was for guns, guns, guns?

Let me know when you want to admit that you cannot find such a post.




Not many...I think most people are fucking losers like you.
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Sorry to read that.
But I cannot say I am surprised.
You either were born fucked up and/or someone/some people REALLY fucked you up to be THIS angry at the world.

Hope this rage/anger/hatred you hold for so many passes one day.
Seriously.

Bye now.
 
BidenPresident said:
Universal voting takes seriously the Declaration of Independence’s insistence that government is legitimate only when it is based on the “consent of the governed.” The Founders did not say “some of the governed” (even 66.8 percent). Including everyone in our system of government would live up to the promise made at the birth of our republic. Universal voting would tear down barriers and elevate our civic obligations.

More than two dozen democratic countries have versions of compulsory participation. One of the most successful models is Australia’s. The United States adopted the secret ballot after Australia tried it first. We should do the same with universal voting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...g-would-end-legal-battles-over-ballot-access/
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So, people should be forced to vote? A person shouldn't have the Right to simply say something like "Don't vote! It only encourages them!"? That's what this policy would entail. That is, it says that you no longer have the Right to not vote for any of the fuckers running for office because you think they're all a bunch of looser scumbags. Compulsory participation in a democratic process doesn't make it more democratic. It makes it less democratic.
 
LV426 said:
Oh, right you're not a centrist because you don't even participate in the political process.

Your role seems to be to just sit on a bunch of phone books and say vapid shit that just highlights how fucking lazy you are.

Congratulations for not even underachieving.
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on the other hand, sometimes participation in a wholly corrupt system gives it an unwarranted veneer of respectability.
 
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