What is a Christian Zionist?

[Into the Night]

.. but an interesting one.


Correct.


You missed the point. The hyperambiguity allows anyone to claim fulfillment per practically any circumstances ... or claim that it is still to come.

What ambiguity?

Now we know your interpretation.

It's what is written in the Bible.

... or only one will try. Iran.

Not according to the prophecies in the Bible.

It may occur, but Israel appears far too cowardly. Israel is a country of bullies. If you give them weapons, they won't use those weapons to defend themselves against Iran; Israel will use those weapons to bully and oppress defenseless Arabs.

Yes they do. You call self defense 'bullying'.

Perhaps the US will assail Iran,

It already has to some extent.

but Israel is forever focused on guarding slavery as the Democrats once did in the US.

Slavery is illegal in Israel.

 

[moon]

' Christian Zionist ' is an oxymoron.

 

[moon]

Palestine is not a nation.

No, Palestinians are a nation. You got something right at last, you moronic poseur.

 

[IBDaMann]

What ambiguity?

You've got to be kidding.

It's what is written in the Bible.

Correct. It is not unambiguous. Its meaning might be clear to you, but another rational adult can arrive at a very different interpretation.

Not according to the prophecies in the Bible.

Yes, others can interpret the prophecies differently. They are not unambiguous.

Yes they do. You call self defense 'bullying'.

You call bullying and oppression of defenseless people who never attacked Israel as Israel's "self defense." You use the term "self defense" as a euphemism for genocide and war crimes, e.g. the Nazis used gas chambers and ovens for self defense.

It already has to some extent.

Sure. Donald Trump is entering negotiations with Iran, and doing so from a position of strength. I agree that this has "started."

Slavery is illegal in Israel.

... but legal in Gaza and in the West Bank, and that is the slavery that Israel seeks to protect.

Now, having said that, slavery in Israel might be illegal on paper, but it is condoned and not prosecuted with any rigor. A 2013 Global Slavery Index estimated that Israel had between 7,700 and 8,500 slaves, with many victims involved in the sex trade and migrant labor exploitation. However, once the focus is turned to Arabs, to include Gaza and West Bank, Israelis treat them as US southerners treated blacks prior to the War of Northern Aggression, including summary executions without reprisals.

 

[IBDaMann]

No, Palestinians are a nation. You got something right at last, you moronic poseur.

There is no Palestine, therefore there are no Palestinians. There are people who hope for, and dream of, the creation of a Palestine, ergo there are wanna-be Palestinians, but there are no Palestinians yet.

 

[IBDaMann]

No, Palestinians are a nation. You got something right at last, you moronic poseur.

I wanted to make an addendum. While I currently don't acknowledge the existence of any Palestine, and thus I currently don't acknowledge the existence of Palestinians (just of people who "self identify" as Palestinians), I am tempted to reconsider. Notice the following video shows how both the US and Germany recognized Palestine prior to WWII.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What ambiguity?

You've got to be kidding.

I'll officially consider your king tipped.

I'll consider your king tipped.

You already tipped your 4D king.

Holy link summarily dismissed.

Wikipedia summarily dismissed.

your argument summarily dismissed.

 

[moon]

I wanted to make an addendum. While I currently don't acknowledge the existence of any Palestine, and thus I currently don't acknowledge the existence of Palestinians (just of people who "self identify" as Palestinians), I am tempted to reconsider. Notice the following video shows how both the US and Germany recognized Palestine prior to WWII.

You'd gain more support from realists by fucking off.

 

[Earl]

The war would end if Hamas, a terrorist group, funded by Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism, would release the hostages and surrender in the war that they started and lost.

Ya esta.

 

[moon]

 

[Earl]

The war would end if Hamas, a terrorist group, funded by Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism, would release the hostages and surrender in the war that they started and lost.

Ya esta.

 

[Into the Night]

You've got to be kidding.

No.

Correct. It is not unambiguous. Its meaning might be clear to you, but another rational adult can arrive at a very different interpretation.

You can say the same thing about any newspaper article, the Constitution of the United States, the Quran, or a copy or Lord of the Rings.

You call bullying and oppression of defenseless people who never attacked Israel as Israel's "self defense." You use the term "self defense" as a euphemism for genocide and war crimes, e.g. the Nazis used gas chambers and ovens for self defense.

There is no genocide. Don't start a war you cannot win. Gas chambers are not self defense. Israel is not using gas chambers to kill anyone.

Sure. Donald Trump is entering negotiations with Iran, and doing so from a position of strength. I agree that this has "started."

Tense and contextomy problem. Pivot fallacy.

... but legal in Gaza and in the West Bank, and that is the slavery that Israel seeks to protect.

Slavery is illegal in Israel.

Now, having said that, slavery in Israel might be illegal on paper, but it is condoned and not prosecuted with any rigor. A 2013 Global Slavery Index estimated that Israel had between 7,700 and 8,500 slaves, with many victims involved in the sex trade and migrant labor exploitation. However, once the focus is turned to Arabs, to include Gaza and West Bank, Israelis treat them as US southerners treated blacks prior to the War of Northern Aggression, including summary executions without reprisals.

Slavery is illegal in Israel.

 

[Into the Night]

There is no Palestine,

There is. It's a region. Most of it is in Israel.

therefore there are no Palestinians.

There certainly is, but it's not a nation.

There are people who hope for, and dream of, the creation of a Palestine, ergo there are wanna-be Palestinians, but there are no Palestinians yet.

There certainly is, but it's not a nation.

 

[Into the Night]

I wanted to make an addendum. While I currently don't acknowledge the existence of any Palestine, and thus I currently don't acknowledge the existence of Palestinians (just of people who "self identify" as Palestinians), I am tempted to reconsider. Notice the following video shows how both the US and Germany recognized Palestine prior to WWII.

There is no nation called 'Palestine'. There is a region called 'Palestine' though. Most of it is in Israel.

 

[moon]

The war would end if Hamas, a terrorist group, funded by Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism, would release the hostages and surrender in the war that they started and lost.

Ya esta.

 

[moon]

There is no nation called 'Palestine'. There is a region called 'Palestine' though. Most of it is in Israel.

' Israel ' is a political division of Palestine imposed by the United Nations in 1947.
The joke is that Israel wants the United Nations dissolved- which would mean the instantaneous delegitimization of Israel.

( I know that facts are over your flat head, Nightsoil- so best not comment and make a further fool of yourself, eh )

 

[Into the Night]

' Israel ' is a political division of Palestine imposed by the United Nations in 1947.

It was not imposed by the United Nations, moonbat.

The joke is that Israel wants the United Nations dissolved-

Don't blame them, since the UN is largely useless.

which would mean the instantaneous delegitimization of Israel.

The UN didn't create Israel.

( I know that facts are over your flat head, Nightsoil- so best not comment and make a further fool of yourself, eh )

Go learn what 'fact' means, moonbat.

 

[IBDaMann]

The war would end if Hamas, a terrorist group, funded by Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism, would release the hostages and surrender in the war that they started and lost.

Ya esta.

AL Qassam, Iran's proxy, attacked Israel and took hostages. Hamas, Gaza's administrators, have no hostages, never had any hostages, and are all dead because people, such as you, HATE Arabs and just want a genocide.

Así es.

 

[IBDaMann]

You can say the same thing about any newspaper article, the Constitution of the United States, the Quran, or a copy or Lord of the Rings.

No, I don't think you understand the concept of Nostradamus-type ambiguity. If I say " there will be a conflict between rivals near a body of water, I have not delineated anything. Wherever there are people there is conflict, and there are bodies of water practically everywhere.

The prophecy you mention does not delineate anything, and a rational adult can point to several such occurrences.

There is no genocide.

You have spent over 18 months in deliberate denial. You won't answer the question of how many dead Arabs who never attacked Israel is enough. You won't explain why Israel Terrorist Forces just keep slaughtering Arabs that Israel knows did not attack them. Israel is in negotiations with Al Qassam, and has been for months, negotiations that are led by the US, specifically for the release of hostages that are not in Gaza.

Israel is simply using Al Qassam's (Iran's) attack on Israel as an excuse to slaughter Arabs, just as Democrats used COVID to be tyrannical. You picked the world's most active terrorist organization to be an adoring fan.

So how many children should be rightly buried alive in rubble?

Don't start a war you cannot win

Stupid quip. Your position is that German Jews should not have started a war against the Nazis that they couldn't win. How horrific a position for you to have.

. Gas chambers are not self defense. I

Indiscriminately slaughtering innocent civilians is not self defense.

srael is not using gas chambers to kill anyone.

The method of the genocide is irrelevant.

 

[IBDaMann]

There is no nation called 'Palestine'. There is a region called 'Palestine' though. Most of it is in Israel.

FDR referred to Palestine as a country, and Hitler acknowledged it as a country. My thoughts are that, at the time, the US and Deutschland weren't the only ones acknowledging Palestine as a country.