What makes unalienable rights “unalienable?”

Leftist believe Men are the universe's "HIGHEST" power, right? That's why leftist should never, ever control the seats of any governance anywhere. They have zero principles, conscience or integrity, they're simply power lusting tyrants!

Amen to this post! Spot on. Leftists are such morons.
 
Let's correct some mistakes here.

(1) We are governed by a secular Constitution, so our rights are governed by the paper.

“Paper” is powerless to govern anybody or anything Jimmy. Governance is perfectly determined by the “principles” on the paper, as believed & agreed to, & humankind’s ability to be loyal to those founding beliefs & principles.

(2) All Founders except Jefferson, Franklin, Allen, and Paine were nominally Christian, from incredibly passive like Morris and Washington and Madison to neo-evangelical yahoos like Patrick Henry and John Jay.

We the People guarantee our rights as Trump is going to find out.

You contradict yourself again Jimmy, as usual! First you claim we’re governed by a Constitution, then you claim rights guaranteed by a lynch mob called “We The People”
 
You are a simple. Your two statements below contradict each other.

“Paper” is powerless to govern anybody or anything Jimmy. Governance is perfectly determined by the “principles” on the paper, as believed & agreed to, & humankind’s ability to be loyal to those founding beliefs & principles.

You contradict yourself again Jimmy, as usual! First you claim we’re governed by a Constitution, then you claim rights guaranteed by a lynch mob called “We The People”

Those are your silly words, not mine.
 
No God has ever guaranteed any rights. That's entirely up to us.

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What a profoundly stupid statement; that man can guarantee rights. You really are an idiot on steroids.

over the last 50 years, show us one example of where God came down and guaranteed our rights....

Where did I claim God did this? Where do you think morality comes from? Do you stupidly believe it is inherent?

Again, anyone who believes that our rights are defined by men and Governments is a moron on steroids.
 
Where did I claim God did this? Where do you think morality comes from? Do you stupidly believe it is inherent?
most everybody knows right from wrong. that 'morality' doesn't come from any God or religion, unless you believe that agnostics and atheists who do the 'right' thing are closeted worshippers

Again, anyone who believes that our rights are defined by men and Governments is a moron on steroids.
don't move the goalposts.........are we going to now talk about who defines rights, or who/what guarantees them?
 
So you are telling us the Founding Fathers, a good number who were deists and agnostics, and who went out of their way to purposely separate Church and State, equated your 21st Century image of God with their understanding of "Creator?"

I do believe they are referring to Locke here and his concept of natural rights, Platonic concepts existing in nature before and after man, notice they didn't specify God, rather "Creator," never implying the two were the same

No….history actual points to the fact that our founders referenced BLACKSTONE in creating the Untied States system of legal jurisprudence. The "INTENT" of our founders is grounded deep in Blackstones political ideologies held within the "Commentaries on the Laws of England". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commentaries_on_the_Laws_of_England

Blackstone's principles are well documented as to have had their origins from sources grounded to the Judeo/Christian philosophy. https://www.blackstoneinstitute.org/_oldsite/sirwilliamblackstone.html

Ever read the closing line on the contract among the states known as the Untied States Constitution? In Article Vll the US CONSTITUTION states, "Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the "STATES" (take note...it was the STATES that drafted and ratified the US CONSTITUTION....the same states that ALL reference the God of Creation, clearly with no ambiguity whatsoever)…….in the seventeen day of September, IN THE YEAR OUR LORD (whose Lord? The STATES LORD)………

Show us, present the documented evidence where none of the states that make up the United States of America.....never referenced the God of Creation in their Constitutions or preambles.....even today....all 50 states make reference to the transcending authority that created this nation.....GOD. Our currency states "In God We Trust".....our politicians swear an oath by placing their hands on the Holy Scriptures....our courts swear people in by placing their hands on the Holy Scriptures swearing to tell the truth. https:www.truthorfiction.com/god-constitutions/

An inconvenient truth: Its the STATES that make up the United States of America....its the STATES that drafted and ratified the US CONSTITUTION....its the STATES that gave birth to the CENTRAL GOVERNMENT....not the inversion. All power in this nation rests with THE PEOPLE of these conglomerate of CITY STATES that send representatives to DC. All fifty of these states reference GOD in their own state constitutions. In FACT: The United States of America preexisted the US CONSITTUTION by 10 years.

The free exercise clause in the US CONSTITUTION guarantees freedom "OF" religion....not freedom from religion. Why would the states (that all reference God in their state constitutions...forbid GOD to exist at the federal level?)….what the STATES guaranteed with the 1st amendment was the fact that the federal government was forbidden from instituting only ONE FEDERALLY ACCEPTED RELIGION such as was the circumstance in EUROPE where the state powers dictated one religion upon THE PEOPLE from ROME....controlling the states and the people and bringing such noble things as the Spanish Inquisitions and the War in the Middle East known as the Crusades.....when the actual scriptures never contained any such authorization for the government to force religion upon anyone. It was against the law for a lay person to even own a copy of the Holy Scriptures...only the church had access (in Latin) to the Holy Scriptures....that's what created the Untied States of America when the people of Europe PROTESTED and fleed to the new world...aka.,the PROTESTANT MOVEMENT.

Read a little history actual. :thinking:
 
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most everybody knows right from wrong.

This statement is made from complete ignorance. If I raised a child to believe that cannibalism is okay, they would believe it is okay. Morality is taught, it is not inherent.

If this painfully dumb claim were connected to reality, we would not need criminal laws.

that 'morality' doesn't come from any God or religion, unless you believe that agnostics and atheists who do the 'right' thing are closeted worshippers

Then where do morals come from?

don't move the goalposts.........

You're the one moving them.

are we going to now talk about who defines rights, or who/what guarantees them?

How does one know what a right is if not defined?

The Constitution is a document that attempts to guarantee them; but as we all know, in life, there are no guarantees. The belief in a higher moral order is far beyond that of mere men and Governments. It is what defined our Constitution and the principles it contains. That is what was meant by unalienable rights as defined by God fearing men.
 
Not until 1956...

I think you ask a very good question..

SO how is it guaranteed & what does guaranteed actually mean for citizens??

I think you ask a very good question.

It is only guaranteed by a national agreement as in the founding, that humankind is endowed/guaranteed with individual unalienable rights by a power higher than themselves. Name that power, the “creator” or by any other name the power is “JUSTICE.” Only as long as the nation’s majority believe that, does the nation have the possibility of justice & liberty, otherwise, Other Men in governing power will own our lives, our property, our liberty & deny our pursuit of happiness.
 
All rights are alienable. And the words about men being equal and possessing rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness were lies before the ink was dry.

Gullible dumbfuck. :rofl2:

Does your Mommy know you're playing with the computer again junior? This is an adult conversation!
 
Does your Mommy know you're playing with the computer again junior? This is an adult conversation!

Dispute the claim, cunt.

There are no unalienable rights. There are no natural rights. There is no creator in the Constitution.

Willfully ignorant moron. :rofl2:
 
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