What the right’s gas stove freakout was really about

[Guno צְבִי]

The Biden administration isn't proposing to outlaw the fossil-fuel-powered appliances. But they're at the center of a growing nationwide debate about city and state gas bans — and the latest Washington culture war.

Republicans and conservative pundits have spent the past week nonetheless expressing alarm about the fate of Americans’ ranges and cooktops — in line with previous GOP complaints about real or imagined threats to hamburgers, toilets, air travel, incandescent light bulbs and gasoline-powered cars.

It also touches on a real, coast-to-coast crusade by liberal city and state leaders to prohibit gas stoves and furnaces in new buildings, on the grounds that they endanger health and contribute to climate change. But the White House has disavowed enacting any such ban at the federal level. (“The president does not support banning gas stoves,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters after the issue came up repeatedly at Wednesday’s news briefing.)

Other Democrats in Washington are looking to avoid the uproar — including the Virginia Democrat who helped spark the fuss.

“I’m loath to touch the stove again,” said Aaron Fritschner, a spokesperson for Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), when asked for comment about this week’s stove backlash. “It was a very stupid news cycle. So little of it was based in fact.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/14/joe-biden-gas-stoves-00077944

 

[Into the Night]

The Biden administration isn't proposing to outlaw the fossil-fuel-powered appliances. But they're at the center of a growing nationwide debate about city and state gas bans — and the latest Washington culture war.

Republicans and conservative pundits have spent the past week nonetheless expressing alarm about the fate of Americans’ ranges and cooktops — in line with previous GOP complaints about real or imagined threats to hamburgers, toilets, air travel, incandescent light bulbs and gasoline-powered cars.

It also touches on a real, coast-to-coast crusade by liberal city and state leaders to prohibit gas stoves and furnaces in new buildings, on the grounds that they endanger health and contribute to climate change. But the White House has disavowed enacting any such ban at the federal level. (“The president does not support banning gas stoves,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters after the issue came up repeatedly at Wednesday’s news briefing.)

Other Democrats in Washington are looking to avoid the uproar — including the Virginia Democrat who helped spark the fuss.

“I’m loath to touch the stove again,” said Aaron Fritschner, a spokesperson for Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), when asked for comment about this week’s stove backlash. “It was a very stupid news cycle. So little of it was based in fact.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/14/joe-biden-gas-stoves-00077944

...and this was certainly expected as soon as the revolt started. Democrats and Biden now trying to deny their own argument.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Well, they can't use abortion anymore as a lure to get the marks into their sideshow. Now that they have the majority, however slight, in the House they'll pretend that illegal immigration isn't a problem anymore because they have no intention of doing anything about it. So what to do? What to do? I know! Gas stoves! The Democrats are coming for our gas stoves! lol

 

[Dutch Uncle]

…Other Democrats in Washington are looking to avoid the uproar — including the Virginia Democrat who helped spark the fuss.

“I’m loath to touch the stove again,” said Aaron Fritschner, a spokesperson for Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), when asked for comment about this week’s stove backlash. “It was a very stupid news cycle. So little of it was based in fact.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/14/joe-biden-gas-stoves-00077944

I love it when politicians put a foot in their mouths. LOL

Sadly, it’s part of American politics when Representatives are continually running for office. A two-year term is too short, IMO. Four would be better with a three to four term limit.

In this case, like “Defund the Police”, politicians were looking at an issue and possible solutions when it skewed off into the weeds. They’re held responsible for something that went beyond their control.


From the link:

… I’m loath to touch the stove again,” said Aaron Fritschner, a spokesperson for Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), when asked for comment about this week’s stove backlash. “It was a very stupid news cycle. So little of it was based in fact.”

In December, Beyer and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) asked the Consumer Product Safety Commission to look at the health risks posed by gas stoves’ methane emissions.

Then a member of that five-person commission suggested to Bloomberg News in a story this week that a ban on new gas stoves could be one of many options to be pursued in the future. But the member, Biden nominee Richard Trumka Jr., had previously failed to get his fellow commissioners to support even regulating stoves, as POLITICO’s E&E News reported Tuesday. Instead, the commission plans to gather “public input” on stoves’ health hazards and possible solutions.

“I am not looking to ban gas stoves and the CPSC has no proceeding to do so,” Chair Alexander Hoehn-Saric later said in a statement.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Well, they can't use abortion anymore as a lure to get the marks into their sideshow. Now that they have the majority, however slight, in the House they'll pretend that illegal immigration isn't a problem anymore because they have no intention of doing anything about it. So what to do? What to do? I know! Gas stoves! The Democrats are coming for our gas stoves! lol

LOL. Agreed about illegal immigration. As the old saying goes, “everybody talks about the weather, but no one does anything about it.”

Wedge issues help political parties rally voters and collect donations but rarely, if ever, actually solve the problem in the best interests of We, the People. Abortion should be legal, safe and rare. The nation needs immigration reform. The nation needs election reform. None of these issues are likely to be resolved anytime soon in the best interests of the nation, only in the best interests of the dominant political party.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

LOL. Agreed about illegal immigration. As the old saying goes, “everybody talks about the weather, but no one does anything about it.”

Wedge issues help political parties rally voters and collect donations but rarely, if ever, actually solve the problem in the best interests of We, the People. Abortion should be legal, safe and rare. The nation needs immigration reform. The nation needs election reform. None of these issues are likely to be resolved anytime soon in the best interests of the nation, only in the best interests of the dominant political party.

What do you think about all states adopting a nonpartisan redistricting commission like we did in Michigan?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

let us recall the history of the victims of lib'rul alarm......air conditioners, clothes dryers, flush toilets, light bulbs........is it safe to ignore lib'rul stupidity?.....

 

[Saint Guinefort]

let us recall the history of the victims of lib'rul alarm......air conditioners, clothes dryers, flush toilets, light bulbs........is it safe to ignore lib'rul stupidity?.....

Wow. You must have a TON of tin foil hats around your home.

How are AIR CONDITIONERS affected? I know you like Trump so you take mega dumps and flush toilets have ALWAYS been your nemesis, but "Light Bulbs"??? Are you joking? We now have LED bulbs which use a FRACTION of the energy needed vs older bulbs.

Why are you COMPLAINING??

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?????????

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Wow. You must have a TON of tin foil hats around your home.

How are AIR CONDITIONERS affected? I know you like Trump so you take mega dumps and flush toilets have ALWAYS been your nemesis, but "Light Bulbs"??? Are you joking? We now have LED bulbs which use a FRACTION of the energy needed vs older bulbs.

Why are you COMPLAINING??

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?????????

No doubt he's talking about air conditioners in relation to freon and its destruction of the ozone layer. So 1990s. How odd that we still have air conditions and a much smaller hole in the ozone.

Luddites like PiMP should all go live in caves and eat nuts and berries and raw meat. lol

 

[Saint Guinefort]

No doubt he's talking about air conditioners in relation to freon and its destruction of the ozone layer. So 1990s. How odd that we still have air conditions and a much smaller hole in the ozone.

Yeah, I figured. But even so, AC still works just fine! (I actually got to spend some time working on measuring CFCs in sea water back in an old job eons ago. Very interesting stuff).

Luddites like PiMP should all go live in caves and eat nuts and berries and raw meat. lol

Something tells me the complaints wouldn't abate then either. LOL!

 

[Cypress]

We're dealing with the intellectual prodigy of the people who howled in protest when lead was banned from paints and gasoline.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What do you think about all states adopting a nonpartisan redistricting commission like we did in Michigan?

I fully support it but getting all states to adopt the idea will be a difficult task, especially in “Red” states like Texas and Florida which are actually Purple and getting less Red as the years pass.

 

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[Nordberg]

In fact, Trumpka , head of the US Consumer safety commission, a rather nondescript agency, said we should think about phasing out gas stoves. That was all. Nobody in the admin has mentioned it. The rights make a big deal out of nothing because that is what they do.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

What I find somewhat strange is how people think that living any way at all,
regardless of the comfort and convenience involved, is worth living.

I definitely agree with liberals that humans are making the planet uninhabitable for humans.
Denying that reveals either disingenuousness or debilitating stupidity.

To me, however, that truth is inspiring the wrong questions.

The pertinent question is, So the fuck what?

Who the fuck wants to live a life without comfort and convenience?
I like living the way I want to live and don't give a fat fuck about living any other way.
That's the point that my fellow progressive liberals seem to miss, and it's huge point to miss.

 

[Nordberg]

What I find somewhat strange is how people think that living any way at all,
regardless of the comfort and convenience involved, is worth living.

I definitely agree with liberals that humans are making the planet uninhabitable for humans.
Denying that reveals either disingenuousness or debilitating stupidity.

To me, however, that truth is inspiring the wrong questions.

The pertinent question is, So the fuck what?

Who the fuck wants to live a life without comfort and convenience?
I like living the way I want to live and don't give a fat fuck about living any other way.
That's the point that my fellow progressive liberals seem to miss, and it's huge point to miss.

The left is doing exactly nothing about gas stoves.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

...and this was certainly expected as soon as the revolt started. Democrats and Biden now trying to deny their own argument.

Do you use gas in your trailer?