BidenPresident
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I fail to see what that has to do with my comment.
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When the Constitution was trashed and how we may never recover.
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I fail to see what that has to do with my comment.
BidenPresident
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what did the founders define a 'well regulated militia' as?????????
Since you do not know, go find out.
SmarterthanYou
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Since you do not know, go find out.
I do know. I asked you. can you answer that question or not?
BidenPresident
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I do know. I asked you. can you answer that question or not?
You're not my 6th grade history teacher. Cut the crap, I don't have time for trolls like you.
SmarterthanYou
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I fail to see what that has to do with my comment.
not surprised. most of you liberals tend to run away from obvious facts............you said that you view 'is quite conventional and the standard understanding of the Constitution', but does that mean because a majority of you believe something, makes it true?
BidenPresident
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not surprised. most of you liberals tend to run away from obvious facts............you said that you view 'is quite conventional and the standard understanding of the Constitution', but does that mean because a majority of you believe something, makes it true?
Refute my statement or shut up. Ok? You're just posting a lot of irrelevant rhetoric.
Absolutely false. No constitutional scholar would agree with you.
No scholar would agree with you. Healthcare was just an example. But if Congress does not have constitutional authority they cannot pass a law. Constitutional authority is what make it legal--you clearly said it must be legal.
James Madison, father of the Constitution said:
"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite."
Madison vetoed a bill in 1817 to build roads and canals because the Constitution has no authority.
We have obviously interpreted the powers of the Constitution much broader today to give the government more power, but that power must still be based on constitutional provisions.
BidenPresident
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No scholar would agree with you.
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Every scholar agrees with me. It is stated in the Constitution. It is not a list of laws the US can enact.
SmarterthanYou
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Refute my statement or shut up. Ok? You're just posting a lot of irrelevant rhetoric.
every framer and commenter of the 2nd Amendment clearly stated that the 'militia' was purely civilian...........not 'well regulated' as in government controlled. now, you asked me to provide a refutation, there you go. perhaps you could actually show the assertion of your statement
BidenPresident
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every framer and commenter of the 2nd Amendment clearly stated that the 'militia' was purely civilian...........not 'well regulated' as in government controlled. now, you asked me to provide a refutation, there you go. perhaps you could actually show the assertion of your statement
Who regulates it?
SmarterthanYou
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Every scholar agrees with me. It is stated in the Constitution. It is not a list of laws the US can enact.
WHAT is stated in the constitution?
BidenPresident
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WHAT is stated in the constitution?
That the document lists laws and only those laws are allowed.
SmarterthanYou
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Who regulates it?
each individual, because when it was written and ratified, 'well regulated' meant well trained and working.............
it would be the absolute height of stupidity to believe that the framers would condition the right to keep and bear arms only if they were regulated by the government, after they had just won independence from a government that tried to regulate their arms out of their control
SmarterthanYou
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That the document lists laws and only those laws are allowed.
then you are wrong. that document lists a few prescribed powers, that were surrendered by the states, and that the government was LIMITED in how they could exercise those powers.
BidenPresident
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each individual, because when it was written and ratified, 'well regulated' meant well trained and working.............
it would be the absolute height of stupidity to believe that the framers would condition the right to keep and bear arms only if they were regulated by the government, after they had just won independence from a government that tried to regulate their arms out of their control
Then the phrase is meaningless. Why not say, "Guns for everyone and no limit."
BidenPresident
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then you are wrong. that document lists a few prescribed powers, that were surrendered by the states, and that the government was LIMITED in how they could exercise those powers.
Const. gives the structure of government. After that, we can do what we want.
SmarterthanYou
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Then the phrase is meaningless. Why not say, "Guns for everyone and no limit."
you cannot define terms in teh constitution to todays times.................it defeats the intent of the constitution.
BidenPresident
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then you are wrong. that document lists a few prescribed powers, that were surrendered by the states, and that the government was LIMITED in how they could exercise those powers.
you did not disagree with what I said
SmarterthanYou
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Const. gives the structure of government. After that, we can do what we want.
only within the limitations prescribed by those articles..........or did you conveniently ignore that part?
SmarterthanYou
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you did not disagree with what I said
sure I did. you believe that the government is without limitations, I disagree