When the Constitution was trashed and how we may never recover.

[BidenPresident]

sure I did. you believe that the government is without limitations, I disagree

I did not state that.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I did not state that.

you said that the constitution provides the structure of government and that after that you can do what you want.............that is EXACTLY what you stated

 

[BidenPresident]

you said that the constitution provides the structure of government and that after that you can do what you want.............that is EXACTLY what you stated

As long as it does not violate the Constitution. What are you contesting?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

As long as it does not violate the Constitution. What are you contesting?

that despite clear wording and the founders intent, as defined by their many commentaries during ratification, you believe that the government can simply redefine terms according to popular views and that makes it ok

 

[BidenPresident]

that despite clear wording and the founders intent, as defined by their many commentaries during ratification, you believe that the government can simply redefine terms according to popular views and that makes it ok

I don't know why you said that.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I don't know why you said that.

that's because you're an idiot..............come back when you've learned about the constitution

 

[BidenPresident]

that's because you're an idiot..............come back when you've learned about the constitution

Now you're going back to being a troll.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Now you're going back to being a troll.

when idiocy is all you present, trolling is all that you get

 

[BidenPresident]

when idiocy is all you present, trolling is all that you get

Bye, troll.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Bye, troll.

then stop sucking, basic idiot

 

[Into the Night]

Specifically, how was Trump authoritarian and contemptuous of democracy?

Trump supports a republic, not a democracy. Democracies have no constitutions and no representatives.

Meanwhile. everything you claim was Trump. is Biden and his administration of fools and usurpers.

They do that a lot. They are always laying their problems on another, usually Trump.

 

[Into the Night]

If it weren't for FDR, we would all be slaves on the Trump Plantation by now!

Try learning English. Liberal doesn't work here.

 

[Into the Night]

Or make laws controlling immigration,

Article I, $8

create a Space Force,

Article I, $8

issue executive orders,

Article II

make laws regarding drugs,

Correct. No authority is provided to list any substance as 'illegal'. They do, however have the authority to specify standards for drugs in Article I, $8.

food safety,

Article I, $8

no presidential power to impose tariffs or build a wall,

Article II, $2

pay for child care or community college

Correct. Nothing provides for paying for either in the Constitution, other than child care within the federal government.

or give loans and grants to college students,

Correct.

send troops without the declaration of war......

Article II, $2. Congress can certainly declare war, but it is not necessary to send troops.

 

[Into the Night]

Where does the Constitution explicitly deny the right of government to do those things?

Not what a constitution does, dude.

 

[Into the Night]

Are you saying the Constitution allows government to anything unless explicitly denied? It can only do those things listed in Section 8 and anything necessary and proper for carrying out those powers.

Of course, we have gone far past that interpretation and I listed things favored by both Democrats and Republicans that government is not specifically authorized to do.

Yes it has, but many of the things you list are authorized by the Constitution. Again, you've apparently never read the thing.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes.

It is the nature of law. A posted speed limit of 70 on a highway means you should not exceed 70 mph. But it does not tell you whether you can drive 60, 64, or 59 mph.
Law establishes a limit.

Speed limits are set and enforced by States, not the federal government.
Some roads DO have minimum speeds.

 

[Into the Night]

My view is quite conventional and the standard understanding of the Constitution.

No. You completely deny the Constitution.

 

[BidenPresident]

Not what a constitution does, dude.

Constitution only structures the form of government. As in, Executive, Judicial, Legislative.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Constitution is now dead.

We will not get it back.

Buckle Up Fuckers

 

[Into the Night]

Certainly not to the federal or state courts who have ruled on many occasions the government did not have the authority to perform a certain function.

You are starting to sound like Into the Night and his puppets.

I have no puppets. His view is nothing like mine. Neither of you have read the Constitution.

He claims there are only 48 states.

At the moment, that is true. I suspect that will reduce to 47 before the end of next year.

You argument is about as factual.

Buzzword fallacy. Learn what 'fact' means. It is not a proof nor a Universal Truth.

There is nothing conventional or standard about your claim

Agreed. There is nothing about yours either.