Where Do Confederate Monuments Go After They Come Down?

Any statue to anyone who fought to keep you as a slave is intimidation. Specifically, it's institutionalized racism if it's on state/federal land, which Gettysburg is.

Will people forget who lost the Civil War if monuments to those who lost it are removed from the public space?

In other words, you have no evidence that African Americans are intimidated by statues at Gettysburg. Are you authorized to speak for them?
Your second claim is without merit unless you can answer the first part.
 
It would be nice if someone could supply evidence that black people are intimidated by statues at Gettysburg.
Flushing history down the memory hole is positively Orwellian.

Breaking: you can still read all about the Civil war and those involved in it in books. Historians wrote them and then cleverly hid them away in these things we call 'libraries'. You can even buy them!

Nothing is being flushed down any memory hold.
 
Breaking: you can still read all about the Civil war and those involved in it in books. Historians wrote them and then cleverly hid them away in these things we call 'libraries'. You can even buy them! Nothing is being flushed down any memory hold.

They just want to intimidate black people.

That's why they're defending these monuments to traitors and losers.

They know that those monumnets represent oppression and fear toward minorities, and they want to keep that up because of white fragility.
 
They just want to intimidate black people.

That's why they're defending these monuments to traitors and losers.

They know that those monumnets represent oppression and fear toward minorities, and they want to keep that up because of white fragility.

Yup. Their collective historical illiteracy and gleeful pig-ignorance not only puts their cowardice on full public display, but it's boring.
 
Please, by all means, garner a band if idiots like yourself and try to remove our monuments.

This is always the fallback for Conservatives who lose arguments; rather than try and defend yourself rhetorically here, you switch to a tactic of "go ahead and try".

We're not debating the try...we're debating the should.

The debate isn't about trying to take down monuments, the debate is should we take down these monuments.

Conservatives know they have no good arguments for defending monuments to traitors, so naturally their argument devolves to "try".

Arguing as you did is shifting the goalposts of the debate. And you only do that because you can't win the debate on this.
 
This is always the fallback for Conservatives who lose arguments; rather than try and defend yourself rhetorically here, you switch to a tactic of "go ahead and try".

We're not debating the try...we're debating the should.

Arguing as you did is shifting the goalposts of the debate. And you only do that because you can't win the debate on this.

I lost no argument because you've yet to present one, and at this point, I doubt you can.
 
I find it amusing that some here twist words and meanings simply because they have no argument. The signs of a dolt.

You're saying what you're saying quite clearly, pal.

You think we should keep monuments to traitors because they invaded Pennsylvania.

You realize that's an untenable position to have, so you shifted the goalposts of the debate from should we keep these monuments around to "go ahead and try as I make a thinly veiled, passive-aggressive threat I'll never follow through on".
 
I find it amusing that some here twist words and meanings simply because they have no argument. The signs of a dolt.

LOL! You support these statues staying up.

These statues honor treason and traitors.

Hence, you honor treason and traitors.

Honey, I know you're upset that you can't face the logical conclusion of what your position represents.

Sit down and have yourself a good cry. It's always worked for you in the past.
 
I lost no argument because you've yet to present one, and at this point, I doubt you can.

LOL!

So, following a thread is another skill you don't have.

The argument I'm making, and have been making, is that we shouldn't keep monuments around to traitors.

Your argument is that we should because those traitors attacked Pennsylvania.
 
OH Mr. Bill we can't have statues that remind us of the horrors of slavery! If we get rid of them we can hide that awful part of American history. Typical liberal thinking.

The statues were made to praise Confederate traitors
 
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I lost no argument because you've yet to present one, and at this point, I doubt you can.

If I've presented no argument, why have you been arguing in defense of keeping monuments to traitors?

You're saying we should keep them around because those traitors invaded Pennsylvania and lost.

So what does them invading and losing have to do with keeping monuments to them?

Are you going to forget who lost the Civil War if they're removed?
 
How unsurprising that you'd have to run away like a bitch by pretending no argument has been presented.

If no argument had been presented, then what the fuck is he responding to?!?

Conservatives do this all the time; make shitty arguments then try to move the goalposts.
 
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