Where would you rank Donald Trump amongst the greatest or worst US Presidents ever?

[LV426]

You have a very active imagination, I will give you that. Actually I explained why I hold those views when I said this....I am a small government, more personal freedom person. A live and let live motto.

You're not a clever person.

You're as transparent as cellophane.

It's obvious you're trying to reposition yourself on the boards after the shellacking you took in last month's election.

That's why your profile was created literally a week after the election.

You were embarrassed by your support of Conservatives and Trump, that the election didn't go the way you thought it would, and rather than own up to being wrong you try to make believe you're a different person who just happened to stumble upon this forum a week after Conservatives suffered their worst electoral defeat in 40+ years.

pending is the problem dumb shit, we spend more than we bring in, a fuck ton more. But you are ok with that because you will not have to deal with the consequences, you will be dead and gone and my children and grandchildren will be paying for you to be a freeloader.

Exactly like I said...you're masquerading your Conservatism as "both siderist" moderation, but coincidentally, your positions happen to nearly 100% align with your past Conservative positions, prior to your re-brand.

Who buys this shit?

I want to know, do you think you're convincing people of your sincerity? Do you think this comes off as genuine?

It doesn't.

 

[Gunny2009]

I've got a copy of it on the shelf alongside where I am sitting. I have read it several times...including a couple of times on the Internet.

You, apparently, do not understand it.

I am not surprised at that.

If you had ever read it vice having it next to you for decorations you would know that it provides the roles and responsibilities of the Fed Govt.

 

[Gunny2009]

That's why your profile was created literally a week after the election

.... make believe you're a different person who just happened to stumble upon this forum a week after Conservatives suffered their worst electoral defeat in 40+ years.

You really suck at math. I joined this forum on 11 Dec 2018...the election was on Nov 6, 2018.

Since you lack the math skills to figure that out for yourself...that is more than literally a week. It is in fact literally more than a month after the election.

The funniest part of this is that I am not the only one you are accusing of doing this...it seems you whole MO is to make false accusations vice dealing with facts.

 

[LV426]

You really suck at math. I joined this forum on 11 Dec 2018...the election was on Nov 6, 2018.

You're right...I was confusing you with the other poster, montgomery, who is doing the same thing you're trying to do.

Still, a month after the worst defeat in 40 years, espousing the same Conservative beliefs as before, but thinking you can masquerade them as "both siderist".

No one buys it.

 

[LV426]

Since you lack the math skills to figure that out for yourself...that is more than literally a week. It is in fact literally more than a month after the election

Yeah, funny how that is, right? You suffer the worst defeat in 40+ years and then magically, a "both siderist" profile emerges that attempts to re-brand the same shitty Consevrative ideas that resulted in the electoral wipeout.

FRAUD.

The funniest part of this is that I am not the only one you are accusing of doing this...it seems you whole MO is to make false accusations vice dealing with facts.

Yeah, there's two of you; montgomery is other other one. That profile was the one literally created one week after the election.

I know why you waited a month; you wanted to give it some time before re-emerging on the scene because appearing too soon would be too obvious.

Problem is, you're dropping hints here and there about your true self.

I bet if we cross-referenced the posts of some of the worst Conservative posters here with your profile, we'd see a sudden and dramatic decrease in the volume of posts from one profile that corresponds nearly 1:1 with the volume of posts with this new profile, right after the election.

 

[Gunny2009]

You're right...I was confusing you with the other poster, montgomery, who is doing the same thing you're trying to do.

Still, a month after the worst defeat in 40 years, espousing the same Conservative beliefs as before, but thinking you can masquerade them as "both siderist".

No one buys it.

That is why in another thread your counterpart from the far right sheep pen is calling me every name in the book for being a liberal.

You people are just not very smart, you cannot comprehend that someone is living outside of one of the two sheep pens.

How can this be the worst defeat in 40 years when 8 years ago the Dems lost 20 more seats in the House than the Repubs did this time?

 

[Gunny2009]

I bet if we cross-referenced the posts of some of the worst Conservative posters here with your profile, we'd see a sudden and dramatic decrease in the volume of posts from one profile that corresponds nearly 1:1 with the volume of posts with this new profile, right after the election.

Go for it then...don't just talk trash, back it up.

 

[Truth Detector]

Please explain how ObamaCare added 1.27 trillion dollars to the deficit the FY that just ended.

Here's How Many Billions Obamacare Will Cost in 2016

The non-partisan office estimates that the program will cost the federal government $1.34 trillion over the next decade, an increase of $136 billion from the CBO’s predictions in 2015. In 2016 alone, Obamacare will cost a total of $110 billion.
http://time.com/money/4271224/obamacare-cost-taxpayers-2016/

 

[Truth Detector]

If "spending is the problem"...it is because we do NOT SPEND ENOUGH...on things we need.

 

[LV426]

That is why in another thread your counterpart from the far right sheep pen is calling me every name in the book for being a liberal.

I don't buy it.

There's nothing liberal about anything you post.

You fell back into your Conservative talking points the moment your positions were subject to the slightest scrutiny.

You're trying to establish board cred for yourself.

It's all for show, though. You're really just a Conservative who is trying to re-brand yourself to re-establish the credibility you lost after the election last month.

 

[LV426]

ou people are just not very smart, you cannot comprehend that someone is living outside of one of the two sheep pens.

This is bullshit, of course...a persona you're trying to establish so you don't have to answer for the fact that you used to post under a different ID, and you had to ditch that ID because you went *ALL-IN* in the past election and were embarrassed by the result.

ow can this be the worst defeat in 40 years when 8 years ago the Dems lost 20 more seats in the House than the Repubs did this time?

The popular vote margin was 10 million.

See, you fall right back into the Conservative talking points that you were likely using under a different ID. Then, when you couldn't get any traction on that, you created a new ID to try a different approach and tactic.

It's the playbook that you've used twice in the last ten years. So we know what to expect now, and have adjusted accordingly.

 

[Gunny2009]

I don't buy it.

There's nothing liberal about anything you post.

You fell back into your Conservative talking points the moment your positions were subject to the slightest scrutiny.

You're trying to establish board cred for yourself.

It's all for show, though. You're really just a Conservative who is trying to re-brand yourself to re-establish the credibility you lost after the election last month.

you are correct, there is nothing liberal about what I post and there is nothing Conservative about what I post.

Yet, you sheep from both sides are convinced that I am one or the other.

Funny as hell actually.

 

[Gunny2009]

The popular vote margin was 10 million.

Who the fuck cares? That is like talking about who got the most hits in a baseball game instead of looking at the final score.

The Dems did ok, nothing historic but ok.

The best win for the Dems was not on the national level but taking over 7 governorships and not losing one and gaining a net 6 state legislatures.

But that is bit too in the weeds for a moron like you.

 

[LV426]

you are correct, there is nothing liberal about what I post and there is nothing Conservative about what I post.

Wrong...the Conservative talking points on the deficit (spending being the cause) and the election (Democrats didn't win as many seats as 2010, while ignoring the popular vote margin of 10M), which were the same talking points Conservatives have used and continue to use.

It's time for you to ditch this ID and create another one.

 

[LV426]

Yet, you sheep from both sides are convinced that I am one or the other.

No one believes you.

There's no sincerity in it.

It's all disingenuous posturing to give your ego comfort and to shield you from accountability.

How typically Conservative...

Why not just staple a teabag to your face and call it a day?

 

[LV426]

Who the fuck cares?

Everyone except you, because that electoral mandate was a wipeout.

So you are exercising Conservative talking points to diminish the significance of the wipeout that happened last month because you are trying to reframe and recast yourself as something not responsible for making poor predictions, or defending pitiful ideology and policy that caused your preferred Conservative candidates to get the shit kicked out of them.

I see right through it.

 

[LV426]

The best win for the Dems was not on the national level but taking over 7 governorships and not losing one and gaining a net 6 state legislatures

A 10 million vote margin is a mandate.

No one buys this fake persona.

 

[Gunny2009]

Everyone except you, because that electoral mandate was a wipeout.

So you are exercising Conservative talking points to diminish the significance of the wipeout that happened last month because you are trying to reframe and recast yourself as something not responsible for making poor predictions, or defending pitiful ideology and policy that caused your preferred Conservative candidates to get the shit kicked out of them.

I see right through it.

it is a meaningless statistic, you care about it because it gives your little partisan mind something to be happy about.

 

[Gunny2009]

Wrong...the Conservative talking points on the deficit (spending being the cause) and the election (Democrats didn't win as many seats as 2010, while ignoring the popular vote margin of 10M), which were the same talking points Conservatives have used and continue to use.

It's time for you to ditch this ID and create another one.

What else can cause a deficit other than spending more than you bring in?

you are really just not very smart at all.

 

[Gunny2009]

A 10 million vote margin is a mandate.

No one buys this fake persona.

It means jack shit...it is like the losing baseball team bragging about getting more hits.

Winning the 7 statehoues was a way bigger deal and you are too stupid to even bring it up.